Author Topic: Residential fire safety & fire alarms  (Read 4142 times)

Offline AnthonyB

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Residential fire safety & fire alarms
« on: April 10, 2010, 11:05:23 PM »
I'm applying the LACORS guidance to an existing conversion of a house to flats.

Converted 1982 to provide a single flat at ground, 1st & 2nd floors. All have lobby <9m travel from rooms FD30 self closing doors to all rooms other than bathroom including flat entrance. Dormer window open-able as a vent (albeit from top landing) to the stair.

Basement not in use (but considering further flat conversion) but has it's own external stairway and doesn't really affect the upper floors.

No real fire risk to the common stair, no current fire warning anywhere.

LACORS looks at Grade D-LD3 to each flat, but also a Grade A-LD2 to the common stair as passive protection is only 30 minutes to walls and floors, but this conversion is to the 60 minutes standard that is in current Building Regs and has the paperwork from 1982 to prove it and has had no structural stuff since to defeat this.

I'm asking for the D-LD3 as well as door upgrades (rebate only, no smoke and seals) but am in two minds about the communal system as the compartmentation is far higher than LACORS and that of Document B for stay put and I don't want to over provide as the landlord is willing but on a budget, plus I don't like over provision for the sake of it anyway.

Anyone got an opinion - if it was straightforward 30 minute compartmentation or less then i have no problem putting in the big system, but this one is a bit different.
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Re: Residential fire safety & fire alarms
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2010, 11:33:52 PM »
I agree with you AB- it sounds as though it pretty well comfirms to the ADB standard for small buildings today, and as such is is probably outside the type of premises the LACORS guide was inteneded to cover.

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Re: Residential fire safety & fire alarms
« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2010, 11:09:28 AM »
I would also agree with the D-LD3 system only and concur wholeheartedly with your aversion to overprovision.  But I think I'd make it very clear that this is heavily conditional on the maintenance of the 60 minutes FR.  10 years down the line, when someone's put plain glass in their front door, or otherwise breaches the compartmentation, you don't want the situation to arise where people's means of escape are vulnerable and where there is insufficient warning for those people.

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Re: Residential fire safety & fire alarms
« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2010, 10:05:33 PM »
Thanks for your help, good point about a clear caveat to make sure that no-one messes up the 60 min - just because it's miraculously survived the first 28 years doesn't mean it won't survive the next 28 without someone knocking a hole in it!
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