Discounting Exit due to Fire

[Phoenix]

Don't understand what you're getting at, NT.

Stu

[nearlythere]

Stu.
Deenee asked for advice regarding the location of two exits and rules regarding distances apart, the angle of divergance and the possibility of a fire effecting both.
My point is we still don't know if the 2+ exits are necessary. It may be a small room of limited occupancy and low to normal fire risk where a single exit may be adequate. If this is the case it doesn't matter what the existing multiple exit door configuration is provided that one gives way to a protected route or is a final exit and meets Stage 1 travel distance.

[Tom Sutton]

Good point NT but it does show how we assume things from second hand information. I for instance assumed Deenee required more than one exit but it was never stated which shows how careful you need to be when responding to a question with out first hand knowledge. A problem I have, which has been brought to my attention on a number of occasions. 

[Phoenix]

Ok, I get it.  Yes, I agree that, in the open forum, it is advisable to stick to generic concepts rather than specifying particular solutions (about buildings of which there is little detail).

Just what we've done here - we've discussed some concepts and we don't know anything about the room in question!

Stu

[nearlythere]

No doubt Deenee is going to come back and say:-

"NT, do you think I'm stupid or something. I wouldn't have raised the matter if I didn't think you would have the brains to realised I had two or more exits for a reason and were necessary, you plank. So next time thicko when I ask a question you should assume I have enough savvy to know that what I am asking is relevant. So get back to you knitting you tube and next time just answer the feckin question without introducing stupid distractions."

or maybe he's just too nice to say so.

[Tom Sutton]

But I'm not 

[BLEVE]

Hey

neither is Civvy

 

[nearlythere]

They are all very very nice people.

[CivvyFSO]

explicet

Is that some sort of rude missile?

[BLEVE]

LOL
Thought I would try a Cleveland late night post

[hammer1]

I have seen a 15 Storey building where there are 2 exits located in the central core. To access the main principle staircase (which passes through the lift lobby) you pass the alternative fire escape which is on your right, through a FD30s, pass the lift lobby and through another FD30s to the principle staircase.

The alternative escape stairs, as mentioned is located just before on the right, through a FD30s. Both lead out to separate parts of the building.

From levels 1 and 2 there are  2 more alternative escape routes at either end of the property.

Thing is, the electrical riser is located on the door opposite the 2 fire doors which lead to their respective stairs.

Property was built in 1960's and is multi tenanted of approx 800. Obviously if the central core develops a fire, the floor where the fire develops is in trouble. Ensuring the x 2 stairs have a high standard of compartmentation is an obvious requirement.


My question is, what doughnut designed such a thing??

[BLEVE]

Well it wasnt me honest 

[AnthonyB]

Wasn't the West Midlands was it? Seems to have it's larger than normal share of older oddballs that even seem to defy the contemporary standards for their era of build, particularly in Birmingham Council's jurisdiction.

[hammer1]

Location is Essex.