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Offline Tom W

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Access for fire fighters
« on: December 20, 2010, 09:16:53 AM »
"Firefighters were forced to park 300 metres from a serious fire.

A crew from Brighton were unable to reach a house blaze in Hanover during the early hours of this morning because traffic blocked the road.

One firefighter blasted the situation as dangerous. "

This is due to lazy people not parking properly and not wanting their alloys to scratch the kerbs. What can the fire service do? what powers have they got in that situation?

What would of you done in the "good 'ol days"  8)

Offline CivvyFSO

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Re: Access for fire fighters
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2010, 09:28:43 AM »
what powers have they got in that situation?


"44Powers of fire-fighters etc in an emergency etc
(1)An employee of a fire and rescue authority who is authorised in writing by the authority for the purposes of this section may do anything he reasonably believes to be necessary—
(a)if he reasonably believes a fire to have broken out or to be about to break out, for the purpose of extinguishing or preventing the fire or protecting life or property;
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(2)In particular, an employee of a fire and rescue authority who is authorised as mentioned in subsection (1) may under that subsection—
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(b)move or break into a vehicle without the consent of its owner;
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Will that just about cover it?

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What would of you done in the "good 'ol days"  8)

Splendid work with the grammar sir.

Offline Tom W

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Re: Access for fire fighters
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2010, 09:40:26 AM »
innit

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Offline nearlythere

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Re: Access for fire fighters
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2010, 05:59:15 PM »
Forklift and nearest skip.
We're not Brazil we're Northern Ireland.

Offline SeaBass

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Re: Access for fire fighters
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2010, 10:05:52 PM »
A friend of mine was an inspecting officer with the New York Fire department in Manhattan. He told me of incident where a large expensive ATV was parked obstructing a fire hydrant.  Members of an engine company, who were trying to make into the hydrant, couldn’t get around the car so they broke both the off side and nearside front windows of the ATV and passed a charged hose through the car to supply their pumper.

But NY Ffs are not unique when it comes to being bloody minded. Back in the late seventy’s  members of a works fire brigade in Hertfordshire complained to site management about members of staff parking on top of the site fire hydrants. The crew were then told that they, along with other blue collar staff, were no longer allowed to park on site as there weren’t sufficient park spaces.

A  few weeks later the WFB responded to an alarm only to find the site managers car parked on the nearest hydrant. A former crew member of long standing just happened to be working nearby using a large freight lifter (V. Big fork lift truck) He promptly picked up the car and placed it lengthways across a gateway with less than a couple of inches between bumpers and gate posts.
When the manager returned to his car and could not get it out of it’s very tight parking spot he accused the crew of dragging it into place, which they of course denied. The former crew member/fork truck driver sympathised with the manager and implied that young modern day crew members had no respect for authority. He then offered to lift the car out of its predicament with the freight lifter, but explained that doing so would probably damage the exhaust. Which it did. Nevertheless the site manager gave him a fiver tip for his trouble and being so helpful. Happy days. 

Offline Tom W

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Re: Access for fire fighters
« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2010, 09:17:38 AM »
Haha

Good work gang

Id love to try and put a book together of all these tales. I have heard plenty that would make for interesting reading.


Offline Clevelandfire 3

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Re: Access for fire fighters
« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2010, 09:58:24 PM »
In the old days we were able to bounce cars out of the way or as a very last resort gently nudge them with the appliance if really necessary
Cant do that now despite the wording in the fire and rescue service act civvy gives above. brigades are too nervous about being sued. In my last serving years operational we used to send messages over the loudspeaker on the appliance asking the offendeer to shift their car before we did. Not exactly protocol but it mostly worked.