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Offline nearlythere

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Re: Green Boxes
« Reply #15 on: January 19, 2011, 07:04:17 PM »
Wiz. Should you think that I, or anyone else for that matter, made a point which you considered went against your understanding, or indeed comprehensive knowledge of the subject, please feel free to say so in a more mannerdly and civil fashion. I am always willing to learn from the learned.
But should you feel it appropriate to use smary remarks to make your point I can only conclude that by doing so reflects the type of person you really are.
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Offline Clevelandfire 3

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Re: Green Boxes
« Reply #16 on: January 20, 2011, 12:24:16 AM »
I agree . Wiz is quick to have a pop at others yet he should consider his own responses first.

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Re: Green Boxes
« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2011, 10:02:37 AM »
Wiz. Should you think that I, or anyone else for that matter, made a point which you considered went against your understanding, or indeed comprehensive knowledge of the subject, please feel free to say so in a more mannerdly and civil fashion. I am always willing to learn from the learned.
But should you feel it appropriate to use smary remarks to make your point I can only conclude that by doing so reflects the type of person you really are.


Nearlythere, my original comment was made somewhat tongue-in-cheek. I did say please and I did use an exclamation mark. Maybe if I'd used a smiley, then your toys would still be in your pram.  ;)

I maintain that your original post wasn't relative to the original question asked, and could, in fact, have caused confusion to those seeking the right answer. It was a waste of everyone's time.

Obviously, my response touched a nerve with you, and so, if I upset you, then I apologise if you were offended.

However, your subsequent personal comments about me do not show you in a good light and, quite frankly, I have absolutely no interest in what you think about me. Why should I? But it was funny that you woke up Gollum again from his stupor!

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Re: Green Boxes
« Reply #18 on: January 21, 2011, 08:12:04 PM »
Under F&RS equality and diversity policies, Gollum would be eligible to be a CFO, so dont knock the little chap.
On a point of accuracy, it is quite simple.You test the fire alarm interface each week. You test the BGU every year. We did not consider more frequent testing to be ncessary. The  green BGU will comply with BS EN 54-11 and should be quite reliable. How often does the microswitch fail?
Test it more frequently if you want to create work, but for there to be people at risk, you need a fire and a failure of the fire alarm interface AND failure of the green breakglass.
Wee B (who is the only English civil servant since the time of Henry VIII, who talks any sense) has tried to tell you all before that you dont need to wear a crash helmet when you drive a car, but if it floats your boat to do so, well go for it.
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Offline Tom Sutton

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Re: Green Boxes
« Reply #19 on: January 22, 2011, 11:07:15 AM »
A point that maybe worth considering, as different MCP is tested each week therefore depending how many there are will dictate the frequency of test, 4 would be monthly and so on.

As for EDR, would you need to simulate a fault on the FA system to test it under the proposed operational conditions. Therefore would not the annual test be the the most appropriate time to to test them with all the MCP's.
« Last Edit: January 22, 2011, 11:11:34 AM by Tom Sutton »
All my responses only apply to England and Wales and they are an overview of the subject, hopefully it will point you in the right direction and always treat with caution.

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Re: Green Boxes
« Reply #20 on: January 22, 2011, 09:20:42 PM »
Thomas , thanks for the idea but I am happy that there is no need.  Just comply with BS 7273-4 and all will be well.
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Re: Green Boxes
« Reply #21 on: January 23, 2011, 10:55:28 AM »
I agree with you completely as well your previous explanation but I am from a bygone age (prescriptive age) and accept those things at face value. These risk assessment days they say you need to look a lot deeper for the reasons for it and as is said quite often BS's are said to be only recommendations.
All my responses only apply to England and Wales and they are an overview of the subject, hopefully it will point you in the right direction and always treat with caution.