E cigarette

[Davo2]

Mr P

Just walking down the street, you inhale far worse crap. I did a paper some 20 years ago, HMG finally caught up.
PM10s kill 500,000 people each year

davo

[Mr. P]

I try not to get out much... there again, just hiding quietly in the Banter Bar...

[Davo]

I can't do that, the bar steward has banned my disposable non-rechargeable perfectly safe no nicotine Shisha pen



davo2 is in fact davo in disguise..........

[kurnal]

Oops sorry everybody this is supposed to be a sensible thread. Was thinking I was in the banter bar for a minute there

[JcRickard]

Also Merseyside Fire & Rescue Service claim two house fires were started when E Cigs purchased from ecigfiend, were being charged.

https://www.cumbriacommunitymessaging.co.uk/da/28744/LAPTOP_BATTERIES_AND_E-CIGARETTES.html (link to Merseyside FRS on this has dissapeared)

I have found e-cigs very useful if you want to quit smoking. Those e-cigs must have been of very poor quality..

[Davo]

Try asking tobacco companies for a Product Data Sheet..........


davo

[Psuedonym]

I think Merseyside F&R said there'd been 9 incidents this year prior to the death of a user last week. All related to non manufacturers chargers being used. 

[Davo]

People are using the nearest charger that fits.
In some cases up to 4 times too powerful


davo

[SamFIRT]

It strikes me that the problem has nothing to do with E Cigarettes specifically, it appears to me to be a generic problem with lithium ion/ lithium polymer batteries and their correct charge rate or possible damage to the battery. A Li-Po battery that is dropped can be a dangerous thing. How many e cigarettes are dropped every day? (Rhetorical question) The same thing happens with batteries in toys, models and ......airliners it seems.

[Dinnertime Dave]

Another fire involving e cigarette charging

http://goo.gl/2wEmma

[kurnal]

Is there any national or local initiative by fire services or trading standards to investigate snd deal with this risk to consumers?

[SamFIRT]

There is in the south east. However TS are more worried about the non regulation of contents that the battery issue.

[kurnal]

I understand there also may be an issue with the quality of the materials and manufacturing standards of the batteries and in particular impurities and foreign bodies causing weakness in the internal  semi permeable insulating membrane and making the battery particularly vulnerable to failure if overcharged.   If correct this too could be a trading stanards issue.

[SamFIRT]

The trouble is they are not regulated. Boot fair fodder! Corner shop fodder! On the corner of the bar fodder! Marketed in nice sweet tasty flavours to entice youngsters. Manufactured down to a price. Never mind its a free market. 

[Dinnertime Dave]

Tests carried out by Staffordshire Fire & Rescue-

http://youtu.be/bjd4N_kabRE