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Graeme

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« Reply #15 on: August 28, 2005, 09:26:52 PM »
coz i down with tha street in ma hood,i will tell y'all what a bong is.

It is a make shift device used for smoking cannabis.So i am told.
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Offline colin todd

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« Reply #16 on: August 28, 2005, 09:52:51 PM »
Oh well you live and learn.
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« Reply #17 on: October 07, 2005, 07:44:32 PM »
Some of you may be interested to know that we have now been given cool burn smoke matches to use on Home Fire Safety Visits when fitting new Alarms or to test exsisting ones!
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« Reply #18 on: October 07, 2005, 07:45:24 PM »
Quote from: Graeme Millar
coz i down with tha street in ma hood,i will tell y'all what a bong is.

It is a make shift device used for smoking cannabis.So i am told.



Why not ask the students in the other forum!
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Graeme

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« Reply #19 on: October 07, 2005, 09:31:33 PM »
Quote from: Andy Cole
Some of you may be interested to know that we have now been given cool burn smoke matches to use on Home Fire Safety Visits when fitting new Alarms or to test exsisting ones!

Better off using Solo smoke in a can.
does cool burn involve a naked flame?
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« Reply #20 on: October 07, 2005, 09:31:48 PM »
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Quote from: Graeme Millar
coz i down with tha street in ma hood,i will tell y'all what a bong is.

It is a make shift device used for smoking cannabis.So i am told.



Why not ask the students in the other forum!

good point
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Offline Andy Cole

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« Reply #21 on: October 08, 2005, 09:25:10 PM »
no naked flame involved, I would imagine (although I've never used it!) it is a similar product to smoke in a can.
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« Reply #22 on: February 20, 2006, 04:53:56 PM »
Is a 'Fire Authority' that installs free single point smoke alarms as part of home fire safety surveys (to form LD3 Grade F system) considered a professional installer then?
A professional installer is required by clause 23.4 to test the sensors using simulated smoke, and to issue a certificate of compliance as alluded to earlier in the thread?
Have any other members working with Local Authority Fire Brigades in UK considered this issue?
The authority I work for just pop the detectors up and push the test button at the moment;  but we are wondering if we may not be complying with the BS?
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Graeme

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« Reply #23 on: February 20, 2006, 05:07:43 PM »
At commissioning stage you need to test with simulated smoke or aerosol to BS.
The test button is intended for the end users weekly tests.
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« Reply #24 on: February 21, 2006, 08:47:48 AM »
Graeme,
             Thanks for your reply, do you issue a certificate of compliance as well?
 I assume from your answer that your opinion is that a Local Authority FB is a professional installer?

Brian
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« Reply #25 on: February 21, 2006, 11:56:09 AM »
Brian

to BS a design,installation and commissioning certificates are required from a professional installer.

could'nt say with the FB. They are installing the detectors for free so technically are not getting paid for it.
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« Reply #26 on: February 22, 2006, 10:15:22 AM »
Graeme,
             As you suggest,  it all hangs on the definition of 'professional installer'. My dictionary seems to define it as 'receiving payment', and or 'having expertise'.
I think my colleagues who deal with this activity will let sleeping dogs lie.
The issue could have serious implications for Fire Brigades community safety activities if it did come to the fore though.
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« Reply #27 on: February 22, 2006, 12:40:30 PM »
Brain

Exactly what i was trying to say but was not sure how to word it. Non professional-as in they are not receiving payment from the end user,not as in their ability.
so i can't see it applying to them.
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« Reply #28 on: February 22, 2006, 02:40:21 PM »
I wouldn't want to try that one with a judge
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« Reply #29 on: February 22, 2006, 05:50:29 PM »
Especially Judge Judy
she takes no prisoners.
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