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Offline hospitalboy

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PPM Schedule for Fire Doors within Healthcare
« on: August 06, 2014, 09:53:22 AM »
Hi All

After going through various PPMs with the estates team, it appears there is no PPM Schedule in place for fire doors in 2 very large acute hospital sites!!  ???
Has anyone got one i can look at, as i now need to tackle this asap.

Thanks in advance

Cheers

HB 

Offline Tom Sutton

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Re: PPM Schedule for Fire Doors within Healthcare
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2014, 04:39:20 PM »
What is PPM schedule, I would ask all of you, the first time you use an abbreviation write it in full follow by the abbreviation in brackets for thickeys like me?   :'(
All my responses only apply to England and Wales and they are an overview of the subject, hopefully it will point you in the right direction and always treat with caution.

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Re: PPM Schedule for Fire Doors within Healthcare
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2014, 04:47:22 PM »
Apologies Tom, it stands for Planned Preventive Maintenance (PPM) ;D

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Re: PPM Schedule for Fire Doors within Healthcare
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2014, 07:39:18 PM »
Have you. Seen the checklist in the ASDMA best practice guide ? Download free at ASDMA.com

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Re: PPM Schedule for Fire Doors within Healthcare
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2014, 10:37:47 PM »
 Link to ASDMA Knowledge Centre http://www.asdma.com/knowledge-centre/ as Kurnal has said worth a look.
All my responses only apply to England and Wales and they are an overview of the subject, hopefully it will point you in the right direction and always treat with caution.

Offline lingmoor

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Re: PPM Schedule for Fire Doors within Healthcare
« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2014, 02:40:57 PM »
Hi hospitalboy

I pick up work needed to be done on fire doors in our Trust during the annual fire risk assessment reviews. I have asked for an independent check be carried out on several occasions, but at the moment it is left down to me. I document doors that require attention on a  spreadsheet and send it to the Estates Officer. This is on a shared drive and he highlights the doors that have been repaired in red...that's it...I'm still pressing for a proper independent survey though

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Re: PPM Schedule for Fire Doors within Healthcare
« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2014, 02:42:25 PM »
Hi

Anychange i could have a copy to start with?

Cheers

HB

Offline lingmoor

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Re: PPM Schedule for Fire Doors within Healthcare
« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2014, 03:08:00 PM »
sent you an email

Offline Tom W

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Re: PPM Schedule for Fire Doors within Healthcare
« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2014, 09:17:24 AM »
sent you an email

Give it up, no one wants to buy your little blue pills  ;)

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Re: PPM Schedule for Fire Doors within Healthcare
« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2014, 09:24:48 AM »
PPM isn't really about picking up things that need repair. arguably you're too late.

Good PPM is about preventing excessive wear and tear by lubricating things and tightening things that get loose etc etc.

I've never seen anything like this for doors.

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Re: PPM Schedule for Fire Doors within Healthcare
« Reply #10 on: August 08, 2014, 11:36:48 AM »
sent you an email

Give it up, no one wants to buy your little blue pills  ;)

you'd be surprised Piglet...there's a lot of old uns on this forum

Offline Mike Buckley

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Re: PPM Schedule for Fire Doors within Healthcare
« Reply #11 on: August 11, 2014, 02:02:45 PM »
You can create PPM for just about anything. I frequently advocate it for Hotels where I suggest the Hotel is split into manageable chunks and the fire doors are examined, adjusted and maintained on a regular basis. so for a 6 storey hotel  I suggest the top floor is done in the first two months of the year the storey below the following two months etc.

The advantages are:
  • every fire door gets examined and sorted once a year, as opposed to when someone gets round to reporting it.
  • once the initial pain is overcome all the doors stay in a reasonable condition.
  • you are in control of the situation and you are not chasing round the building from crisis to crisis
  • once the program is up and running the costs will stabilise so you can put a regular sum into the annual budget for door maintenance as opposed to asking for a large sum every now and then, the finance people are more likely to accept a steady figure rather than ?200 one year and then ?2000 the next.

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