Recording FRA's

[Tom Sutton]

The common areas of flats are not a workplace so consequently art 3(b) applies and the owner is unlikely to employ anybody in the building, therefore art 9(6) will not apply. A FRA is required but the owner will not be required to record it, then how do you audit that building especially a large block of flats?

[kurnal]

Almost invariably the owner or managing agents are employers and have staff there on a maintenance or management basis. If they are not then its a full inspection each time.

[Messy]

In addition, although the FRA does not need to be recorded, it still needs to be completed. So an audit will involve talking to the owner (RP) instead of interpreting the written FRA.

[colin todd]

In addition, although the FRA does not need to be recorded, it still needs to be completed. So an audit will involve talking to the owner (RP) instead of interpreting the written FRA.

or in the case of your ex employer, David, shouting at him a threatening him with hell and eternal damnation , often without they themselves having a clue as to what they are talking about.

[Messy]

I can't argue with that Colin, as I have indeed witnessed the aftermath of such an unreasonable outburst aimed at one of your customers a few years back - along with your robust reply!!!

[Fishy]

Also worth remembering that under Regulation 9(6) of the 2005 Fire Safety Order the need to record the risk assessment is triggered by the number of employees the RP has in total - not the number they employ in any individual premises.