assimilation for specialist ADO's

[Guest]

Where do the specialist ADO's fit within the new role structure?

[Mr. P]

Less seriously, it seems that by other postings around here, it would depend on if you have been 'fast tracked' or not. Therefore, would there be a difference in pay scale of any rank between the FT and standard slog guy? Have to watch out lest 'they start deducting for not having had the chance to get Q'd up on the Q's they will pay more for. Having just entered the 20 year club, would Q's that I did, which are now obsolete, be disadvantageous? Others stuff I'm Q'd for which is still relevant, but am not in a users position for, how will that hit me? By becoming specialist in a grade could in itself become limiting to someone, and then others leap past up the pay scale chain. Well, it's Thursday so...

[Guest]

joe, simple answer - it hasnt been resolved yet, though i can assure you that when the work starts specialist roles will not be forgotten! the original work that was done on this issue placed specialist roles at a higher 'role score' than purely operational personnel (if there is such a thing of course)

even when the scores were 'weighted' it still produced a higher 'role score' than the ops staff.  

suggest you speak to your rep body (whichever your rep body is) my rep body has already started collating concerns/discrepancies (i know cos im doing it!!) anybody wish to make comments, air their concerns then please do so on this posting (if joe doesnt mind) and i'll call in regularly to look at  them

dave bev

[Guest]

ok, either no-one cares or no-one visits, im not sure which one to believe, or perhaps both!!!

dave bev

[colin todd]

I visit, dave, but I don't care.

[Guest]

but colin, if there are no specialist fire safety ado's how are you ever going to wind everyone up with your references to the quality of their expertise?

[colin todd]

Dunno. Don't care.

[Guest]

thank you colin very useful statement

why make silly statements like that

[wee brian]

Slly yes. But at least hios punctuation was spot on.

[wee brian]

Silly yes.
But at least his punctuation was spot on.

[Guest]

Can I remind everyone this site is meant to be for the benefit of helping other people.

Lets cut down the silly remarks please

Yes great to have a " laugh" but some of it is getting out of hand now.

And may I ask Mr Todd what his problem is with ADo's and for that matter Local Fire Authorty inspecting officers?

I am not a LAFO myself but strongly disagree with some of his outlandish comments and certainly wont be using his consultancy!

[colin todd]

Yes, you may ask. I didn't know I had a problem, provided they are suitably trained. If you HAD used my consultancy, you would probably have been served by one of the ADOs who were, but, hey, my little girl's school fees are paid for this term so I hope to be alright for another few weeks.

[Guest]

Well with a budget of £750,000 to spend on fire safety I now know who not to use for a fire safety consultancy

Grow up Colin please!

[colin todd]

No problem. You will find a list of alternative consultants on the IFE website or in the Yellow Book.

[Guest]

What's happening here?

Surely if Colin has a view and it's not too offensive, he is entitled to share it here without the 'scratch your eyes out' bitchyness which has happened on this thread. At least he is willing to be identified.

It hurts me more than I can say to back him up, but between his vicious angry attacks on innocent LA FS officers, he does contribute greatly to this board.

I have worked alongside some excellent, motivated and highly competent FS officers (yes Colin even in London) and I have worked with some complete idiots who probably couldn't open a fire door let alone recognise one.

So it's not surprising that when a consultant such as Colin has repeated experience of clashing with the jobsworth no-nothing type, he's gunna be reluctant in employing them.