Confusing advice. Tumble dryers.

[nearlythere]

With tumble dryers in care homes and the like and because of the current situ with Whirlpool appliances it is not very helpful when LFB and Whirlpool are giving out conflicting info on how to deal with the issue pending the engineered visit.

What advice are assessors giving in their FRAs?

[kurnal]

Hey welcome back NT I was starting to think you had done a runner like Retty!
I don't think it very likely that many will encounter these m/cs during a risk ass As they are primarily aimed at the domestic market though a few be used in care homes as you suggest

[nearlythere]

I have seen a few domestic type tumble dryers in the smaller care homes recently K and one yesterday in a special needs day centre.

I was locked out of the system a while ago K and thought you didn't love me any more. I found the back door though. 

[Bruce89]

I have often encountered domestic grade tumble dryers located in laundry rooms in sheltered accommodation premises. A friend of mine who runs his own business that includes selling and repairing tumble dryers states they are basically a time bomb, they are clearly being used beyond their capabilities.
Buy cheap pay dear is an expression that springs to mind.

[JT]

The fires we've had from tumble dryers this year have mainly occured from a lack of cleaning the filter after every use, but also a couple of spontaneous combustion - cooking oils still in rags etc.

So the advice we generally give is; to check the recall register, ensure oily rags are disposed or cleaned at a higher temp to ensure it's removed, clean filter after every use where required and do not leave on overnight.
Follow manufactures instructions.

Tend to advise for detection and fd30s door for property protection if not already required.

[kurnal]

The point raised by JT is very valid and particularly a problem with cotton fabrics that have been laundered and look perfectly clean. I have seen cotton tea towels ignited also by hanging them on the door of a fan oven - the exhaust temperature is pretty low but the air flow accelerates the self heating effect.

Years ago there were problems with tumble driers operating on economy 7 electricity tariff at night, exacerbated by the fact that early tumble dryers in the 1970s did not have thermal cut outs. That problem went away due to design changes but it took about 5 years to achieve the change.

[Bruce89]

I agree with JT's comments, but whilst people continue to use either inappropriate machines e.g. Domestic standard instead of commercial, or fail to follow manufacturers instructions etc. They will keep catching alight. You can lead a horse to water but...
Going back to NT's posting, what advice are fire risk assessors giving, in particular when encountering domestic grade machines in a non domestic situation e.g. Sheltered accommodation as previously indicated.