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Offline nearlythere

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Airbnb.
« on: January 09, 2017, 08:48:29 PM »
Many people in UK now renting out part or all of their homes and other types of space using Airbnb. This, in the, main is for accommodation for holiday makers. I was in one in Lisbon recently where the duplex apartment was on the second and third floors. There was absolutely zero fire safety measures, not even fire doors from the apartments onto the single stairway.

Where would such an arrangement stand in respect of UK fire safety legislation?

These are holiday lets and are subject to FRAs and all that entails. I have yet to hear any authority expressing concern other than the taxman for missing out on his cut.

We're not Brazil we're Northern Ireland.

Offline Dinnertime Dave

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Re: Airbnb.
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2017, 09:03:46 PM »

I was in one in Lisbon recently where the duplex apartment was on the second and third floors. There was absolutely zero fire safety measures, not even fire doors from the apartments onto the single stairway.

Where would such an arrangement stand in respect of UK fire safety legislation?


I can honestly state that UK fire legislation will have no standing in Lisbon.

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

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Re: Airbnb.
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2017, 09:10:03 PM »
Its his accent, Suppers. He comes from Norn Iron.  He was saying LISBURN.
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Re: Airbnb.
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2017, 09:53:38 PM »
On a serious note, I seem to remember a case in Wales where the owner argued that because he only let his self catering cottage a couple of weekends a year that it didn't fall under the legislation. He lost.

The rationale being it falls under the legislation when it is let.

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Re: Airbnb.
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2017, 09:05:37 AM »
It looks like CFOA have had an input

http://www.esfrs.org/search/?q=airbnb

I know ESFRS have been looking at the issue.

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Re: Airbnb.
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2017, 07:25:01 PM »

I was in one in Lisbon recently where the duplex apartment was on the second and third floors. There was absolutely zero fire safety measures, not even fire doors from the apartments onto the single stairway.

Where would such an arrangement stand in respect of UK fire safety legislation?


I can honestly state that UK fire legislation will have no standing in Lisbon.

Sorry, I couldn't resist.
I did think of that after I posted DT but then I thought only an ejit would say something like that. And there you go. But you are forgiven and the next time I am in the bar I will make full use of your tab.
Dot. How on earth did you manage to make it so far from Benedicts without getting dizzy and having a nose bleed.
It is a great idea though as so much weekend accommodation is available throughout Europe at fantastic prices. Highly recommended despite the risk. 
We're not Brazil we're Northern Ireland.

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Re: Airbnb.
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2017, 11:30:12 AM »

I've attached a link to an article looking at this from a while back. Airbnb tell their hosts that they must comply with local Fire Safety legislation. A lot of the properties are existing premises offering sleeping accommodation just using Airbnb as another means of generating income.  The business model depends on peer review so it is not difficult to track down the people who are offering accommodation in an area.

http://www.ifsecglobal.com/airbnb-getting-free-ride-fire-safety/



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Re: Airbnb.
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2017, 12:54:24 PM »

I've attached a link to an article looking at this from a while back. Airbnb tell their hosts that they must comply with local Fire Safety legislation. A lot of the properties are existing premises offering sleeping accommodation just using Airbnb as another means of generating income.  The business model depends on peer review so it is not difficult to track down the people who are offering accommodation in an area.

http://www.ifsecglobal.com/airbnb-getting-free-ride-fire-safety/



And Airbnb do not provide the accommodation or take bookings. It just provides link between those who want accommodation and those who have some available. Airbnb get paid for providing that link.
We're not Brazil we're Northern Ireland.