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Offline Mar62

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fire strategy required
« on: September 21, 2017, 12:08:30 PM »
Hi all. Any recommendations for someone to produce a fire strategy for an existing narrow 5 storey building in London please.
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Re: fire strategy required
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2017, 03:46:17 PM »
Hi,

I presume the building has not recently gone through a major refurbishment at the company leading on that would have produced a document that shows the building meets Approved Document B plus all the relevant British Standards.

The below may be of some help to you (a cut and paste job - I have no shame).

Means of escape

A second aim of a fire strategy  is to outline the means of escape. A good fire strategy demonstrates and establishes the objectives for means of escape, including travel distances, escape within the apartments, escape within common areas, escape within various other accommodation on-site, disabled evacuation, number of escape routes and final discharge widths based on occupancy load factors.Each identified Purpose Group will be analysed with consideration given to independent means of escape and any impact caused from reliant evacuation. Inventive solutions will be proposed in order to satisfy the function requirements of the Building Regulations while maintain the desired design intent for the buildings.

Fire spread and control

A good fire strategy identifies the extent of fire protection required throughout the building including linings, unprotected areas and external wall construction standard required. Both internal and external fire spread will be assessed with submissions provided to cover all function requirements and any movement away from the guidance legislation being subjected to detailed evaluation with creative resolutions.

Construction

It?s important to identify the compartmentation required, fire resistance, elements of structure, fire stopping, cavity barriers and fire suppressant systems, where required. Each requirement of compartmentation and design parameters will be provided to the present Purpose Groups within the development.

Fire service access

Your strategy should describe the applicable design standards for external vehicle access, hydrants, location and number of access points, fire fighting lifts, internal access, dry / wet rising fire mains, etc, evaluate current Fire Service access and advise as to the applicable engineering solutions available to satisfy both the Building Regulations and the relevant Local Fire Authority.

Fire Safety Management

Describing key management issues, control of evacuation and fire safety planning. Outline the requirements to satisfy Regulation 38

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Re: fire strategy required
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2017, 07:26:34 PM »
Hi all. Any recommendations for someone to produce a fire strategy for an existing narrow 5 storey building in London please.

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Re: fire strategy required
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2017, 10:20:27 AM »
Hi, many thanks. No major works been carried out. The building is under an enforcement notice as needs a smoke vent installing. The smoke vent company wont do a spec without a fire strategy etc etc.
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Re: fire strategy required
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2017, 07:04:26 AM »
Hi, many thanks. No major works been carried out. The building is under an enforcement notice as needs a smoke vent installing. The smoke vent company wont do a spec without a fire strategy etc etc.

Interesting to know what it is about the building that 'requires' a smoke vent?

Anyway... ask the smoke vent company to recommend someone who they've worked with before?

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Re: fire strategy required
« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2017, 11:42:55 AM »
Fishy, you're telling me! Fire officer was adamant. i was trying to find where the requirement came from. Tom Sutton on here helped by suggesting a section in ADB regarding single staircase where no lobbies or alternative escape route exists.
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Re: fire strategy required
« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2017, 02:50:17 PM »
It could be the basement that needs venting , see ADB B5, but you really need to parle  with the Fire Officer.

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Re: fire strategy required
« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2017, 09:13:55 AM »
Reassuring that the smoke vent people were being professional and not just selling you a big fan and some dampers.

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Re: fire strategy required
« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2017, 10:08:47 AM »
Its the staircase that he wants venting as some smoke got into the staircase somehow during a small fire in tenant basement area.
Client is leasing with the vent co and fire officer.

Thanks all
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