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Offline nhungthientai

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Fire Wardens
« on: March 12, 2019, 02:05:06 PM »
I know there has been some discussion on Firenet in the past regarding fire wardens/marshals and different levels of training that have touched on the following question but has anybody had an update on persuading employees to carry out their role as fire wardens? I have had a query from a college that has nominated personnel and trained them in the role however they are now indicating that they no longer want the responsibility and the college is having difficulty finding sufficient numbers of competent persons to implement their fire procedures as required by Article 15 of the RRO.

The college has recently lost some funding and I suspect this is becoming an industrial relations issue but I would appreciate any updates or relevant case histories. I am aware of the duties of employees under Article 23 but is it necessary to resort to the 'stick' or have others found more effective solutions?

Offline Owain

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Re: Fire Wardens
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2019, 02:20:24 PM »
?1000 a year bonus for fire wardens?

Online Messy

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Re: Fire Wardens
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2019, 11:34:10 PM »
We give our wardens a day off per annum which is conditional on them attending refresher training every 2 years.
Even then we struggle to recruit and retain.
We need around 200 in our head office and are always 15% or so understrength. When you plot the gaps, there are definite clusters where its usually a 'political' reason such as disgruntled staff or where a particularly loud and influential member of staff whois whipping up dissent.

The extra day's holiday helps as a carrot, but even this is now under review. I see mass warden 'resignations' if that perk goes, so be careful about incentives such as this as we are about to shoot ourselves in the foot five by scrapping this award 5 years after introducing it

Offline lyledunn

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Re: Fire Wardens
« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2019, 07:28:39 AM »
I don't understand the difficulty in colleges. There are usually enough senior managers to fill a football stadium!

Offline Demontim

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Re: Fire Wardens
« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2019, 08:56:00 AM »
"I don't understand the difficulty in colleges. There are usually enough senior managers to fill a football stadium!"

That may well be true but for many managers (senior or otherwise) and academics, if it's not in their job description they won't do it. I've personally witnessed a lecturer pushing students out of the way when the fire alarm has sounded and leaving them to take care of themselves (needless to say some robust agricultural counsel was offered to said lecturer once everyone was clear of the building).

Offline Fire Monkey

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Re: Fire Wardens
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2019, 09:06:41 AM »
Robust agricultural counsel?? That's a new on one me