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FIRE SERVICE AND GENERAL FIRE SAFETY TOPICS => Technical Advice => Topic started by: GregC on May 15, 2009, 03:17:03 PM

Title: Comments please
Post by: GregC on May 15, 2009, 03:17:03 PM
This was found in an infants school, no fire alarm, what you cant see are the 230v fairy lights on extension leads fixed to the wall, you cant see them as they are covered with more paper tissue, 1/2 way along is the door to the library.

(http://i432.photobucket.com/albums/qq48/muddshot/DSC00044.jpg)


Title: Re: Comments please
Post by: nearlythere on May 15, 2009, 03:25:08 PM
This was found in an infants school, no fire alarm, what you cant see are the 230v fairy lights on extension leads fixed to the wall, you cant see them as they are covered with more paper tissue, 1/2 way along is the door to the library.

(http://i432.photobucket.com/albums/qq48/muddshot/DSC00044.jpg)



Horror of horrors. Is there another way out of the library?
Title: Re: Comments please
Post by: GregC on May 15, 2009, 03:27:21 PM
yes, it leads into the celebration of flags corridor, I didnt take a picture of that as the site manager was grumpy :)
Title: Re: Comments please
Post by: nearlythere on May 15, 2009, 03:32:22 PM
yes, it leads into the celebration of flags corridor, I didnt take a picture of that as the site manager was grumpy :)
And what does the corridor in the photo celebrate?
Title: Re: Comments please
Post by: GregC on May 15, 2009, 03:36:01 PM
The Northern Pole.
Title: Re: Comments please
Post by: AnthonyB on May 15, 2009, 03:52:40 PM
Enforcement Notice at least, consideration of Prohibition (if it had been the only way out definitely).

If my child went to that school they wouldn't be going in that part of the building until it was removed and I'd be kicking up a stink to get an FRS I/O down there.

More shades of Stardust with that lot.

If I were you I'd call that one in & not just post it here, in fact I would now if I knew where it was!
Title: Re: Comments please
Post by: Allen Higginson on May 15, 2009, 04:47:07 PM
I take it that they are filament lamps and not LED's?
Title: Re: Comments please
Post by: David Rooney on May 19, 2009, 07:08:18 PM
Time and money permitting I'd recreate that corridor in a field and invite all the heads in the county to watch how quick it would go up.... silly sods.
Title: Re: Comments please
Post by: afterburner on June 04, 2009, 03:10:44 PM
or put the 'heads' in the field and leave them there. Safely more out touch than normal.
Title: Re: Comments please
Post by: smoke monkey on June 20, 2009, 01:33:14 AM
It is obvious that whoever covered the walls with that material had no idea about fire safety at all and thats without considering the method of fire system ( which is woefully inadequate and illegal ) ie mains manual fire system.
Some people seem to have no idea at all about fire safety or any other type of health and safety come to think of it....which reminds me of a saying.......

Yet another case of trying to save money and blatentley disregarding peoples lives at the same time.

The problem with common sense is that its not that common.
Title: Re: Comments please
Post by: chris. on June 20, 2009, 10:44:53 AM
hmm i guess they could also chuck in a bit of petrol and a log fire in the middle to make the scene more complete

i defo wouldnt want to have to use that corridor if something ignited it
Title: Re: Comments please
Post by: kurnal on June 20, 2009, 11:51:25 AM
or put the 'heads' in the field and leave them there. Safely more out touch than normal.

I'd put the heads on stakes in the Tower of London
Title: Re: Comments please
Post by: Wiz on June 20, 2009, 05:03:58 PM

....... and thats without considering the method of fire system ( which is woefully inadequate and illegal ) ie mains manual fire system. ..........

Smoke Monkey, According to GregC there is no fire alarm at all.

Anyway, I think the material is probably made from asbestos and the fairy lights are low voltage LED versions with the mains supply to the double insulated low temperature transformer protected by a RCD. Also the walls of the corridor will slide seemlessly underground (allowing direct acces to free) if the fire detection system detects fire(Greg said there was no fire alarm not that there was no fire detection)

Sorry, I take all my above flippant remarks back. It's just that I'm still smarting about the extra work that GregC created for me by coding XP95 call points wrongly back in the year 2000! Bear a grudge? who me?
Title: Re: Comments please
Post by: chris. on June 20, 2009, 05:47:57 PM
thats a bit over the top..

though i have found out something interesting about that school, your right it doesnt have a fire alarm.. but they still have an old halon system covering the corridor, so no-one will get burnt
Title: Re: Comments please
Post by: Psuedonym on June 29, 2009, 10:25:54 PM
It's Wacko Jacko's wardrobe  :'(  ;D
Title: Re: Comments please
Post by: Phoenix on June 29, 2009, 11:09:25 PM
i have found out something interesting about that school, your right it doesnt have a fire alarm.. but they still have an old halon system covering the corridor, so no-one will get burnt

Are you sure about the Halon system?  That sounds very weird. Halon in a corridor??  Why??

Also, yes, the picture shows what looks like a potentially dodgy situation but I think everyone's jumping to condemn very quickly here.  We know nothing of the layout or precise use of the premises.  I would urge everyone to always reserve judgement until all the facts are known.

Stu

Title: Re: Comments please
Post by: GregC on June 30, 2009, 10:40:26 AM
Did you read the description at the top of the picture, infants school, tissue paper hanging from the walls and ceiling, 230v filament lamps behind the tissue paper.

Young children, very flammable material, ignition source = very bad

The reason I was on site was to survey for a fire alarm system, there is no halon, in fact the only thing worse than putting a halon system in a corridor with young children would be covering it with tissue pa................

 
Title: Re: Comments please
Post by: AnthonyB on June 30, 2009, 01:30:27 PM
If I wanted to be really mean i'd put a Methyl Bromide system in, not halon. After all I've found extinguishers in schools old enough to date back to the days of MB (mainly due to the expert skill of the FB maintenance department.... ::))