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FIRE SERVICE AND GENERAL FIRE SAFETY TOPICS => Fire Safety => Topic started by: The Colonel on March 08, 2010, 04:25:49 PM

Title: Acetylene Cylinder disposal
Post by: The Colonel on March 08, 2010, 04:25:49 PM
Is anybody aware of an organisation or company that can arrange for the safe removal and disposal of old Acetylene cylinders off site?

Recently undertaken a fire risk assessment on a property and yard, located outside were a number of Acetylene cylinders and other cylinders, namley Oxygen and popane/butane, some were located amongst palletts and large oil drums full of some sort of oil. The organisation has asked the likes of BOC about disposal but they are unable to answer many of the questions being asked of them, such as how old, are they full/empty, where did they come from etc. The organisation appears to be run by volunters and until recently health & safety has not been high on the to do list shall we say.

Any advice on who may help with disposal would help and I could pass it on, if you want to PM me with details and reply without company details here please feel free to do so. any web site would be welcome.
Title: Re: Acetylene Cylinder disposal
Post by: nearlythere on March 08, 2010, 04:31:10 PM
Is anybody aware of an organisation or company that can arrange for the safe removal and disposal of old Acetylene cylinders off site?

Recently undertaken a fire risk assessment on a property and yard, located outside were a number of Acetylene cylinders and other cylinders, namley Oxygen and popane/butane, some were located amongst palletts and large oil drums full of some sort of oil. The organisation has asked the likes of BOC about disposal but they are unable to answer many of the questions being asked of them, such as how old, are they full/empty, where did they come from etc. The organisation appears to be run by volunters and until recently health & safety has not been high on the to do list shall we say.

Any advice on who may help with disposal would help and I could pass it on, if you want to PM me with details and reply without company details here please feel free to do so. any web site would be welcome.
Try a company with provides waste disposal services. Even council sites here won't take condemned extinguishers any more. Have to use disposal company instead at a price.
Title: Re: Acetylene Cylinder disposal
Post by: Midland Retty on March 08, 2010, 05:24:35 PM
In addition to Nearlytheres response there does appear to be inconsistency between local authorities and what type of waste they will accept. My local authority will accept butane and propane cylinders and other nasties for instance so it is worth checking with local authority in the area your client is based - you never know!

Or if there are any company or supplier names still visible on any of the bottles contact them to see if they will take them back (I realise acetylene cyclinders do not tradionally have this information on them, but some do).

Failing those options as NT quite rightly says try a waste disposal contractor. The NCEC (National Chemical Emergency Centre) also provides some advice on where and how to dispose  Hazchem / Hazmats alas some of its advice is free, some of it isn't, again worth a try.

Their contact details: - NCEC 00870 190 6621 or www.the-ncec.com

Title: Re: Acetylene Cylinder disposal
Post by: The Colonel on March 09, 2010, 04:33:05 PM
Gentlemen

Thanks for the information, I shall be following it up.
Title: Re: Acetylene Cylinder disposal
Post by: Midland Retty on March 09, 2010, 04:34:41 PM
NCEC contacted me earlier today and gave some further information about cylinder disposal.

If you cant establish the owner of any acetylene bottles in your possession then there is a company called Synergy whom will come and collect them free of charge

Synergy then tries to establish who the bottle belongs to with a view to selling it back to that company.

Synergy is contactable on 01227 462 008  or http://www.synergyassetservices.co.uk/
Title: Re: Acetylene Cylinder disposal
Post by: The Colonel on March 09, 2010, 05:12:50 PM
Midland

Thanks for the update I will follow it up
Title: Re: Acetylene Cylinder disposal
Post by: rn976 on March 10, 2010, 09:42:54 AM
re this issue  can I just point out that my old training sub is now spinning at a great rate of knots in his grave

Milk comes in bottles
Soliders come in tanks
Acetlyene comes in clylinders


 
regards
rn976
Title: Re: Acetylene Cylinder disposal
Post by: nearlythere on March 10, 2010, 10:58:30 AM
re this issue  can I just point out that my old training sub is now spinning at a great rate of knots in his grave

Milk comes in bottles
Soliders come in tanks
Acetlyene comes in clylinders


 
regards
rn976
And elephants come in pints.
Title: Re: Acetylene Cylinder disposal
Post by: kurnal on March 10, 2010, 11:36:51 AM
re this issue  can I just point out that my old training sub is now spinning at a great rate of knots in his grave

Milk comes in bottles
Soliders come in tanks
Acetlyene comes in clylinders

regards
rn976

And what did he have to say about spelling rn376? :)

She was only a welder's daughter but she had acetylene legs.
Title: Re: Acetylene Cylinder disposal
Post by: rn976 on March 10, 2010, 12:22:52 PM
Ahh speeling teh downfall of teh intelligent

rn976 :)
Title: Re: Acetylene Cylinder disposal
Post by: Clevelandfire 3 on March 10, 2010, 08:15:42 PM


And what did he have to say about spelling rn376? :)

She was only a welder's daughter but she had acetylene legs.

Ive been watching you Kurnal. You appear to have an OCD about spellin. You have you keep pickin on peeples spellin and gRaMmerr.
Title: Re: Acetylene Cylinder disposal
Post by: Chris Houston on March 11, 2010, 09:10:49 AM
This might help:

http://www.bcga.co.uk/preview/cylinder_disposal.php
Title: Re: Acetylene Cylinder disposal
Post by: kurnal on March 11, 2010, 11:57:28 AM

Ive been watching you Kurnal. You appear to have an OCD about spellin. You have you keep pickin on peeples spellin and gRaMmerr.

No Cleveland I'm a very tolerent person really just like pointing out the ironic.
And we all make mistakes.

I made one once- I thought I was wrong but later found out I wasn't.
Title: Re: Acetylene Cylinder disposal
Post by: afterburner on March 11, 2010, 02:52:18 PM
now then a conundrum, ...... is 'tolerent' a mistake from a tolerant person or a deliberate hook to test our tolerances?
Title: Re: Acetylene Cylinder disposal
Post by: kurnal on March 11, 2010, 10:50:24 PM
Saying nothing ab,  of course it was a deliberate ploy..........but secretly holding head in shame. Dont tell that Cleveland fellow will you, other wise I will never live it down. Lets just keep it between me and you shall we? Our little secret?   
Title: Re: Acetylene Cylinder disposal
Post by: jokar on March 12, 2010, 07:59:46 AM
See, Mr Todd was correct we should have all been educated in Scotland!!!
Title: Re: Acetylene Cylinder disposal
Post by: nearlythere on March 12, 2010, 08:44:17 AM
See, Mr Todd was correct we should have all been educated in Scotland!!!
Yep. I received education on the benefits of 80 shillings there and never looked back.
Title: Re: Acetylene Cylinder disposal
Post by: kurnal on March 12, 2010, 08:49:19 AM
It is a mistake to ever give Mr Todd an inkling that you think he is right. (Not that he ever is.)
But whatever you do dont mention Culloden. I mentioned it once but I think I got away with it. 
Title: Re: Acetylene Cylinder disposal
Post by: Chris Houston on March 12, 2010, 05:18:06 PM
It is a mistake to ever give Mr Todd an inkling that you think he is right. (Not that he ever is.)
But whatever you do dont mention Culloden. I mentioned it once but I think I got away with it. 

Are you also trying to upset your moderate moderator?
Title: Re: Acetylene Cylinder disposal
Post by: Midland Retty on March 12, 2010, 05:38:53 PM
As "C-To's" bestest mate - infact his only mate - I feel I should defend his honour. I therefore waggle my finger and tut at you alot Kurnal for bad mouthing the Toddster.

By the way Mr Houston, Kurnal has been a very, very naughty boy while you were away.

Personally I think you should place him in the stalls and flog him with rolled up copies of obsolete British Standards and perhaps a dictionary too.... but then again he might enjoy that!
Title: Re: Acetylene Cylinder disposal
Post by: Chris Houston on March 12, 2010, 06:52:39 PM
I might knock a few thousand of his post count instead.