Joining unions other than the FBU

[maineroad]

Could not agree more about the RFU/FOA they are nothing but parasites ,the problem for us is that the FBU did not want to upset management & we ended up getting decent advice from solicitors we paid for ,they seem to enjoy tea with the principal officers more than with thier members!!!

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Could not agree more about the RFU/FOA they are nothing but parasites ,the problem for us is that the FBU did not want to upset management & we ended up getting decent advice from solicitors we paid for ,they seem to enjoy tea with the principal officers more than with thier members!!!

I've no idea what Brigade your a member of, but I can assure you that scenario does'nt happen in Region 10.

Yes. there are meetings, but none of our reps hob nob with the authority, quite the opposite thay stand firm, and deliver our views. (Brian Coleman, take note)

Shift changes, Beds, CFS work, Push bikes (yes push bikes) are all currently being discussed.

[maineroad]

Thats why your region has not been ripped up yet & has rtd ff doing w/t ff jobs while they are out doing cfs in vans ,its all TRUE

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Thats why your region has not been ripped up yet & has rtd ff doing w/t ff jobs while they are out doing cfs in vans ,its all TRUE

I can't see London ever going down the retained route. A house within 5 mins of say Barnet or Mill Hill Fire Stations would set you back around £350K. I can't see many people being interested, they're more likely to be either 76 or work in the city.

The push for twelve hour shifts would however allow them to have people who only want to work days covering these stations with no night cover, instead a pump from a two appliance station would be sent in at night.

But then the LFEPA know they will have a strike on their hands when they try to implement this strategy, which is why two years after the initial suggestion nothing has happened.

Unlike Merseyside which managed to crew about 15 machines with senior officers and scabs, the LFEPA would struggle to cover London. The majority of officers up to the rank of D.O have already told senior management and the authority that it's a stupid idea. Almost as stupid as giving Brian Coleman his driving license back when his ban is up, but perhaps not quite as stupid as £1200 silly chairs which give you back pain.

[Dinnertime Dave]

I have to say London that you’re lucky that staff stick together. In other brigades someone will always come in for overtime, but not on nights because of the chairs. My own experience is that the fbu are only interested in anybody who rides on a red truck not training staff or fire safety officers. But still a member.

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I have to say London that you’re lucky that staff stick together. In other brigades someone will always come in for overtime, but not on nights because of the chairs. My own experience is that the fbu are only interested in anybody who rides on a red truck not training staff or fire safety officers. But still a member.

London's far from perfect Dave. We too have people (with the Unions blessing) who do pre-arranged overtime, personally I think its a dodgy road to go down as they can manage on around 100 FF's short of the required establishment, instead relying on Pre-arranged to cover the shortfall in the summer months when annual leave is most commonly taken.

However, I would like to believe No one would come in to work during a strike for whatever rate the authority offered. There will always be a few, but they really are a tiny percentage consisting of non union FF's.