Care Home Bedroom door closer.

[The Colonel]

Gentlemen

Thank you for your contributions and guidance, I am off back to the care home on wednesday to discuss options with them and the advice here has been helpful. Piglet thanks for your contribution and advise on products which are helpful. Had some problems in the past in a different care home where they had located hold open devices in Cat C where Cat A was needed, the X systems would have been ideal there, but they still haven't installed it.

Will update you all later.

[AnthonyB]

We already have a Cat A device which is hardwired into the panel and communicates with the door devices using radio technology.

But not Freedor? Your website says that it's only acoustic unlike the Dorgard that has a version that is radio linked to the hardwired transmitter.

Do you plan to make a 'Freedor X'

I ask as there are about 600 fire doors across a property portfolio that might benefit from this if so!

[Tom W]

The current Cat A product we have is system X, not Freedor.

I have no doubt there are plans to make a hardwired radio Freedor however most specifiers (architects) asked us to make the freedor acoustic for ease of install and for price. The acoustic technology used in Freedor is very intelligent and due to its height when installed it cuts out false actuations.

I will pass on your comments to the development department though.

[colin todd]

Thomas, I am intrigued as to the rationale for saying it was Cat C.  They must have had something in mind.  Why did they say Cat C instead of Cat B?

[Tom W]

You can now see on our website we have changed Freedors category to CAT B not CAT C. http://www.firecoltd.com/Fire.aspx

So Hardwired System X is A
Freedor is B
Dorgard is B

This has quite a big impact on the market as it will make other radio units Cat C if they use a booster. So generally over 100m site specific range will need a booster. If that booster is wireless it will down grade the system to Cat C.

So be aware that if you purchase a Cat A system and you need to add a booster due to the range being short or too many doors, unless that booster is hard wired, the system is Cat C. Our hardwired radio product does not require any boosters.

Apologies for any confussion however at least our products have been upgraded and not down graded.

[jokar]

Piglet, looking at the link you posted both products still say Cat C in the bullet points.

[Tom W]

Apologies jokar, a new skin was being put on. All ammended now though

Thanks for letting me know.