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Offline BLEVE

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PAS 79 2011 draft
« on: July 16, 2011, 06:31:19 PM »
PAS 79 draft for comment available at
http://drafts.bsigroup.com/Account/Login?ReturnUrl=%2fDocument%2fManage%2f809

Not overly impressed by the degree or level of revision to be honest.

As for this proposed revision, the changes are minimal and IMO do not provide any value for money "did it ever offer value for money"  ;D. The main changes relate to:

New guidance on the approach that should be adopted in determining the
appropriate fire precautions for existing buildings that do not comply with current codes
of practice. i.e a paragraph or so supported by a basic flow chart. (Hardly inspiring or insightful to a competent FRA).

A new annex containing a competence standard for fire risk assessors (Not included in the draft)


A reference (paragraph) to registration and certification schemes for persons who carry out
fire risk assessments and companies who offer fire risk assessment services on a
commercial basis. (IFE, FRA etc) already in the public domain.

Revision of the document to take into account the publication of various new, British Standards. Already in the public domain.


All in all, a cash making exercise for BSI and Toddy.

I am surprised that BSI did not present the draft with print/copy lock out through ADOBE, reckon every Tom, Dick & Harry will be using Colins proforma in breach of copyright now that BSI have made it freely available on the WWW.
 OOPS
Think Toddy will be busy for some time ,  ;D
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Offline John

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Re: PAS 79 2011 draft
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2011, 12:41:09 PM »
Bleve,

Just a thought...

If you are not happy with the draft document, perhaps you should use the time available to make your comments and proposed changes through the correct channels, ie the draft section of the BSI website, after all, that's why is it put out for comment.

Offline BLEVE

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Re: PAS 79 2011 draft
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2011, 02:15:42 PM »
Bleve,

Just a thought...

If you are not happy with the draft document, perhaps you should use the time available to make your comments and proposed changes through the correct channels, ie the draft section of the BSI website, after all, that's why is it put out for comment.

 :o Do you think I had not already done so......................

Offline colin todd

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Re: PAS 79 2011 draft
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2011, 06:05:06 PM »
Bleve, you are right -we are terribly busy sorting out the problems of duff risk assessments and crap enforcement, mostly in expert witness cases, either for prosecution or defence.  Indeed, we have just had a record year as a result of the chaos.  If people are so much in need of help with their fire risk assessments that they copy the PAS 79 format in breach of BSI copyright, then it demonstrates eloquently the need for PAS 79 and the great favour we have done the world.  It will no doubt continue to be a best seller.  BSI are quite capable of pursuing copyright breaches themselves.
Colin Todd, C S Todd & Associates