High-rise fire problem - Strathclyde

[Guest]

Just seen a Health & Safety bulletin in our brigade regarding a problem experienced in Strathclyde. Apparently a firefighting lift went to the fire floor rather than one below (some old guys may wonder what's so new or special about that) but HSE appear to be getting involved. Anyone shed any light on the topic?

[Guest]

I ain't from Stathclyde and so know nothing about the incident in question.
However if an injury was sustained or narrowly avoided or the potential for injury was identified (due to the lift opening on the wrong floor) then the incident could have been reportable under RIDDOR. I too am interested in knowing more.

[Guest]

Spoke to people from Strathclyde - seems FFwere not only on the fire floor but also above it - took a crew of experienced FF to sort the situation out and assist with the rescue of colleagues. May just be another urban myth but apparently there were people who needed treatment -

[guest2]

Crews were given wrong info at the bottom (allegedly). They then proceeded to the floor that they beleived to be below the fire. When the doors opened, the circulation area was heavily smokelogged. The smoke prevented the lift doors from closing (sensors activated). Two firefighters managed to put their ba sets on, Station Officer had to be rescusitated by ambulance crew. Outcome: improvement notice by HSE on proceedures. Contact Strathclyde for new proceedures.

[dug wallis]

this problem occured cos the building in question[and still hasn`t] has no protected  area for crews to enter into after leaving the lift. so when initially the crews were directed to the wrong floor by 2 plods & a concierge they imm. found themselves in trouble on arriving at the wrong floor which was very smokelogged & involved in fire.
strathclyde have known about these 32 storey residential flats since their being built & an external staircase was only put in about the 80`s when we nearly lost 2 full crews due to the buildings poor design.
its also an object lesson for those who would never think about changing b.a. wearers on arrival at a visibly serious inc so that suitable exp f/fs are committed initially. you can`t beat experience in this job no matter what quals. you have or what courses you have been on.
withm.s.f incs you must get it right first time or face the consequences.

[dave bev]

take a look at fsc 55/2004 re bdag.

high rise firefighting has been especially identified as needing a massive 'look at'. seems strange that hmi scotland said there was no evidence of issues relating to heat stress etc at the launch of the circular - wonder which brigade he previously served in then?

its ok, i already know!

dave bev