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Multi sensor heads for a part 6 installation?
« on: October 03, 2007, 06:06:25 PM »
I would like to recommend multi sensor heads for some small apartments, laid out like bedsits- does anybody know if such a beast is available?
Currently the place has standard mains ionising detectors - or rather did have till most were vandalised- LD3 as the flats satisfy the compartmentation rules.
So I am looking for mains powered with battery backup multi sensor alarms with perhaps dual optical and rate of rise sensor and ideally CO as well?
Any chance do you think?

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« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2007, 07:51:49 AM »
Yes they are out there, but if the existing system is old it may be an expensive job upgrading /replacing the control side.  Some can be set to user requirements for eg. heat more sensitive in day and smoke at night (cuts down a load of false calls).

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« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2007, 08:45:32 AM »
Thanks Mr P but what I am looking for is a stand alone domestic smoke alarm with multi sensor technology- one that can stand alone or be interconnectible as part of an LD3, 2or 1 system without control panel

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« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2007, 11:07:50 AM »
Kurnal, try Gent.

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« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2007, 12:13:58 PM »
Kurnal
I have just spoken to the Sales manager for Gents and he confirmed my thoughts that they don't manufacture any mains detectors now.
I don't know of anybody who does, but I will ask around and get back to you if I have any info
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« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2007, 12:33:21 PM »
Yes Thanks for that Dave, I guess I will not find what I am looking for at the moment because as I understand things the current multi sensor technology processes all the analogue data at the panel rather than within the head itself. Still looking though - and there must be a potential market for this.

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« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2007, 02:08:36 PM »
Hi professor K

Kidde Fyrnetics are a major player in the self-contained market.

I notice from an old listing that they have a combined CO and Ionisation smoke (model 900-5UK).

Might be worth you checking them out to see if they have anything else suitable.

Otherwise I've never seen anything like what you are looking for and would suggest that the market for them isn't as big as you think!

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« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2007, 08:22:41 PM »
Hi, Try this www.aico.co.uk they make the type of detectors you require but I am not sure about a combi type. If they can not help you try ARCO.

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« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2007, 11:24:21 PM »
BRK do a combined photoelectrical & heat head, not sure if it is a true intelligent multi sensor head though. Sadly they seem now to be US only as I can only fond 120V AC models.

EI Electronics (who AICO distribute for) & Sensotec only have the usual stuff
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« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2007, 09:02:19 PM »
Thanks for your help but it looks like there are no stand alone domestic style stand alone multi sensor alarms on the market yet.

I reckon I have identified a brilliant marketing opportunity and Ole poker face Dr Wiz is busy designing just such a device and about to make his second million.

Potentially this is what we need for HMOs and smaller flats - at the moment its either smoke detectors that get vandlaised due to unwanted alarms or very unusually heat detectors  for this type of occupancy.