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PAS 999: The latest
« on: December 27, 2004, 05:57:16 PM »
This new Publicly Available Specification (PAS) has attracted some comment on the BB. Also, both we and BSI are receiving quite a lot of calls asking about it. So, hopefully, an update will not be too boring for the BB. As a result of admin problems within BSI in obtaining comment from relevant committees, the comments will not be able to be considered until early January. Thereafter, the time for production will depend to a large extent on how much comment there is and how much the draft needs to change in response to the comment. However, it now looks like it will be published in March. Unfortunately, it can no longer be called PAS 999. The reason is that a well known fire training establishment is alleged to have handed out copies of the draft on disk (no less!) as part of training courses on fire risk assessment. Aside from the flagrant breach of copyright that this would constitute (a matter that is receiving further action), it has not been made clear to recipients of these illicit copies (so we have been informed) that the document they have been given was merely an early draft that went on very limited private circulation (and not to the establishment in question). BSI are now extremely concerned by this and that, once the document is published, there will be confusion between the illicit early draft (which has changed significantly and is now a worthless document) and the actual published version. BSI's conclusion is that, as a result of this alleged unprofessional behaviour by persons unknown (for the moment unkown anyway!), they will need to change the number of the PAS. The new number will not be revealed by BSI until actual publication to prevent a repeat of the problem. If anyone needs further info they are welcome to contact ourselves or BSI. For obvious reasons, both BSI and ourselves are interested to hear from anyone who received the illicit version by the means described above.
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« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2004, 03:51:36 PM »
Thanks for the update - and the goss

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« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2004, 10:52:00 PM »
Always a pleasure to be of service to any friend of the Old Dozey Post Menopausal people.
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« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2005, 01:17:16 AM »
We are looking for ideas for a new number for this specification. Any bright ideas for something catchy? Contributions from a well known training establichment that have, so it has been alleged to us,  been teaching the draft, c/w PowerPoint presentations, welcome.
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« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2005, 07:16:55 PM »
666?

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« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2005, 07:18:28 PM »
Or you could go Yank: 911

Or Euro: 112?

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« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2005, 03:40:46 AM »
The spec will be published by BSi around the end of the month.
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« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2005, 09:03:33 AM »
you spend far too much time in bsi committees!

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« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2005, 08:21:19 PM »
Its all a front for a capitalist plot to infiltrate the FBU with subversive level headed capitalists, Davey. Look out of your window right now! That man leaning against the lampost is not waiting for his dog to finish urinating. He is a member of the thought police keeping you under surveillance.
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« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2005, 10:48:17 PM »
how spooky! i said to him ' have you got a light, mac' and he replied 'no, but ive got a dark brown overcoat'

i thought there was something strange!

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« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2005, 01:05:00 AM »
Probably a chief officer. They teach them to produce verbiage that says nothing on the brigade command course.
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« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2005, 12:34:31 PM »
Hi Colin et al, they dont teach them that now any more, brigade command course is dead and gone, mainly caused by the IPDS lot who were made up of guys who could not get on the BCC!!! 'how are the mighty fallen?' and looked who felled them!  Fancy the College releasing draft stuff early, I am shocked that such a bastion of the modern day fire service could do such a thing! next thing they will be tendering for contracts for all matters relating to fire at home and abroad just like a private company, and the next thing, heaven forfend, will be fire brigades setting up their own privates companies to do similar work, then who will enforce the enforcers?
As for a number for the PAS why not try a random number generator its less naff that all this 999 and 911 etc etc or 54321 (I picked that from an old Manfred Mann song) bears as much relevance as any others.
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« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2005, 12:12:07 PM »
what about 118999?
this would take you through to an emergency call centre in india somewhere where you would talk endlessly to someone who hasn't the faintest idea of what or where you're speaking about.......but hey...who cares they're only on 75p an hour..

or am i just being cynical

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« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2005, 07:08:39 PM »
Too late. it has now been published on 8 March as PAS 79 ' Fire risk assessment- guidance and a recommended methodology' £99 from all good booksellers. (Well actually only from BSI!)
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« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2005, 09:20:38 PM »
Bargain!