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Offline jayjay

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« on: July 29, 2008, 01:58:57 PM »
A further attempt to prosecute the owners has failed again on friday 25th July at Edinburgh Appeal Court again the court ruled that the three previous owners could not be prosecuted as the firm has been disolved.

See The Herald for more details.

Seems we will have to wait to find out what happend.

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« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2008, 02:12:37 PM »
Case against fatal fire care home owners collapses A further attempt to prosecute the owners of a care home, where 14 elderly residents died in a fire, collapsed today.

Thomas Balmer, 61, Anne Balmer, 60, and their son Alan Balmer, 34, faced 17 charges over the fire at Rosepark Care Home in Uddingston in January 2004.

These included alleged health and safety breaches and alleged failure to implement and maintain an effective fire safety strategy at the home.

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The Appeal Court today ruled that the Crown cannot proceed with the indictment because the firm has been dissolved.

The firm Rosepark Care Home, which was run by Mr and Mrs Balmer and their son, was dissolved on February 28 2005.

The Crown Office said that they are considering a fresh indictment.

In their opinion, published today, appeal court judges said: "We conclude that the dissolved partnership does not have any continuing legal personality following dissolution and accordingly we consider that the indictment to which the petitions are directed is incompetent."

It follows the failure of an earlier attempt to prosecute the trio.

The Balmers had previously been due to stand trial over alleged safety breaches at Rosepark Care Home but a judge dismissed the charges over a legal technicality last year.

Prosecutors launched a legal challenge but the appeal court refused the Crown's appeal against the decision.

Solicitor-general Frank Mulholland, QC, said the Appeal Court's decision has brought an important clarification to Scots Law.

He said: "The decision has brought an end to the current indictment against Rosepark Care Home specifying that the firm was now dissolved.

"The prosecution of a dissolved partnership was previously unknown in Scots law.

"Today's decision of the Appeal Court has clarified the law in relation to the liability of a dissolved partnership for alleged crimes that occurred prior to it being dissolved.

"The Appeal Court has held that criminal liability does not rest with the former firm in its firm name."

Consideration is being given to a fresh indictment. Crown Counsel will study the judgement and give consideration to the best way forward.

He said: "Crown Office officials and the Procurator Fiscal have met the families to explain the judgement and the options open to the Crown.

"We are grateful to the families for their patience in this matter.

"As soon as a decision is taken we will advise the families of it."

The Rosepark fire was one of the worst tragedies in Scotland in recent years.

As well as the death of the 14 residents, several other people were injured when a fire broke out in a downstairs cupboard in the care home.

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« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2008, 03:07:18 PM »
Thanks Piglet
The whole tragic event has been veiled in secrecy due to the ongoing legal action, there must be huge lessons for us all in the case. It now seems that the potential legal action has now been kicked into touch and there appear to be no solid grounds to persue it- is it not now high time the details of the fire and the events surrounding the incident were brought out into the open?

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« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2008, 06:16:59 PM »
Isn't it interesting that we have 3 people responsible for 14 deaths yet there is no way in law to prosecute them for their alleged failures.  Perhaps more sad then interesting, I wonder how they go through their daily routines knowing that those 14 people died at their hands.

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« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2008, 06:26:34 PM »
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Isn't it interesting that we have 3 people responsible for 14 deaths yet there is no way in law to prosecute them for their alleged failures.  Perhaps more sad then interesting, I wonder how they go through their daily routines knowing that those 14 people died at their hands.
This is nothing new really. Consider Blair and the Iraq war.
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« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2008, 06:47:40 PM »
Is it any different from limitied companies killing people and top execs not being charged.

I guess that legally those three different individuals didn't run the home, a separate legal entity that they set up did.

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« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2008, 06:49:42 PM »
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we have 3 people responsible for 14 deaths yet
PS: I think I'm right in saying that nobody has been found guilty of any crimes yet.  Innocent until proven guilty......

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« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2008, 08:04:49 PM »
Corporate Manslaughter became law this year so that may assist in the future.  You are correct of course in that no one will ever be found guily of any crime if indeed there was one committed.

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« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2008, 12:51:31 PM »

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« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2008, 09:01:03 AM »
Though the law has changed differently either side of the Border, back in 2004 the Fire Precautions Act and the Fire Precautions (Workplace) Regs were basically the same acroos Great Britain. On that basis, I hope that the Crown Office is looking carefully at section 23 and 24 of the Act and will either challenge the Court ruling (if they believe they can prove and offence has taken place) on the basis of section 23 or simply prosecute the former directors under section 24.

23. Offences by bodies corporate.— (1) Where an offence under this Act committed by a body corporate is proved to have been committed with the consent or connivance of, or to be attributable to any neglect on the part of, any director, manager, secretary or other similar officer of the body corporate, or any person purporting to act in any such capacity, he as well as the body corporate shall be guilty of that offence, and shall be liable to be proceeded against and punished accordingly.
(2) Where the affairs of a body corporate are managed by its members, this section shall apply in relation to the acts and defaults of a member in connection with his functions of management as if he were a director of the body corporate.

24. Offences due to fault of other person. Where the commission by any person of an offence under this Act or any regulations made thereunder is due to the act or default of some other person, that other person shall be guilty of the offence, and a person may be charged with and convicted of the offence by virtue of this section whether or not proceedings are taken against the first-mentioned person.

Or maybe that's just too simple.
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« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2008, 09:01:24 AM »
This was not a further attempt at prosecution.  As I understand it this was merely clarifying the status of directors, limited companies, partners and partnerships as persona as defined in Scots Law.
The appeal judges have re-emphasised that the individuals can still be prosecuted.  Also note that it is Rosepark not Rospark.

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« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2008, 12:14:38 PM »
Rosepark in news again, further prosecution planned

see BBC news link

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/glasgow_and_west/7645985.stm

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« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2008, 02:33:59 PM »
Setting aside the legal issues surrounding this incident is there a report available on the circumstances of the fire including a description of the level of fire safety measures which were in place at the time?
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« Reply #13 on: October 14, 2008, 03:23:26 PM »

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« Reply #14 on: October 14, 2008, 03:39:46 PM »
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This link, gives you some info,

http://www.scottish.parliament.uk/business/officialReports/meetingsParliament/or-04/sor0204-02.htm
Thanks Ricardo

Came across that whilst googling but not very informative on cause and fire safety measures.
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