The CFPA Europe Diploma, worth doing or not

[Thomas Brookes]

Hello all,

I am toying with the idea of doing the CFPA Diploma in Fire Prevention and was wondering if anyone knows if this is a worth while qualification or is it just reconised by a limited few.


Many Thanks in advance

[Benzerari]

Hello all,

I am toying with the idea of doing the CFPA Diploma in Fire Prevention and was wondering if anyone knows if this is a worth while qualification or is it just reconised by a limited few.


Many Thanks in advance

It is reconised in 18 European countries according to the link below:

http://www.thefpa.co.uk/Services/Training/Fire+Safety+Management/CFPA+Europe+Diploma+in+Fire+Prevention+2007.htm


Any sort of courses are very important but, there must be some priorities, depending of

What you already have?

What you want to be?

Are there any direct interesting offers of jobs, once undertaking such course?

And so on…

[Thomas Brookes]

Presently I am the MD of a medium sized  fire protection company and not looking to change careers in the near future, unless the next offer for my business is better than the last one.  One thing I am always looking to be the best I can be and give my clients the best advice I can.
Unfortunately in this day and age we are always looking to be able to prove competency etc. We are always having to prove ourselfs to often people who have less knowledge than us.

To be honest if I was looking to for qualifications to enhance job prospects I would concentrate on my occupational Health and Safety qualifications as I know I could walk into a higher paid job in that industry than in the fire protection industry, (basicly we get paid poorly in the fire industry compared to other industrys). Have a look at the last series of the apprentice to see what the complete idiots earning well over £100k are doing, how many on here are taking home £100k, I know I wish I was.

[Graeme]

going back to a topic that mentions members with multi persona.

i think Thomas is another me..  Chris-check his IP address....  maybe it's the cider and i am not aware i am doing it...

[kurnal]

One thing I am always looking to be the best I can be and give my clients the best advice I can.
Unfortunately in this day and age we are always looking to be able to prove competency etc. We are always having to prove ourselfs to often people who have less knowledge than us.

Good point Thomas and there appear to be a number of regular contributors to this forum who would also fall under this description.

It often makes me cross when you see some of the piffle that some the big names produce and charge for  in the name of CPD-  many give out totally duff gen to people who dont know any better and dont think to question it or have the gumption to verify it.
Then those who have collected the worthless certificates  look down the their noses at the like of those of us who burn the midnight oil to read, analyse, compare and understand the science behind the documents but dont have the CPD certificate to prove it.

[Thomas Brookes]

We fooled them, how ever I do vodka.

To be honest I am getting fed up with having to prove I am ok at what Ive being doing for the last 15 years.
Recently I had an inspection for our kitemark and we had a few non conformacy's  to sort out, and  in a meeting at our office I had to prove that I was able to decide what sort of fire alarm a very small business needed. I had to get out all my Nebosh diploma, nebosh fire, alarm quals etc etc. After about half an hour of this I asked Ive shown you mine you show me yours type thing, what do you think he had got to assesse me. You guessed it f**k all to do with fire alarms , he was just a qualified sparky. (before any one slags me off, Yes I am a qualified sparky as well. Although not done my 17th edition upgrade yet) so I can comment on this.

[Wiz]

Third party accreditation (with all its inherent costs) is a growing industry. The Government loves it because it creates jobs for mainly-middle manager types (those who get made redundant first in a recession) so it saves the government from having to pay them unemployment benefit.

I am yet to be convinced by massive amounts of certificates and accreditation. Give me someone with proven experience every time.

[Thomas Brookes]

Its a bit like the ISO 9001, it does not prove you are doing the job correctly, it just proves you are doing it the same every time.

[Benzerari]

Presently I am the MD of a medium sized  fire protection company and not looking to change careers in the near future, unless the next offer for my business is better than the last one.  One thing I am always looking to be the best I can be and give my clients the best advice I can.
Unfortunately in this day and age we are always looking to be able to prove competency etc. We are always having to prove ourselfs to often people who have less knowledge than us.

To be honest if I was looking to for qualifications to enhance job prospects I would concentrate on my occupational Health and Safety qualifications as I know I could walk into a higher paid job in that industry than in the fire protection industry, (basicly we get paid poorly in the fire industry compared to other industrys). Have a look at the last series of the apprentice to see what the complete idiots earning well over £100k are doing, how many on here are taking home £100k, I know I wish I was.

Thomas; I agree with most of what you said, also I think the best one who can to tell you, what's your best next step, to be better, and to do better it's obviously you.

I used to take my bike in a weekend and go to the park to relax with the green and nature, and just think where am I? And what’s next?

I am theoretically interested in so many courses but practically, I might be able to undertake only one, if I could. It’s the one that can step me up of on single step in the same ‘stair case’. Also it might open many interesting doors and opportunities.

Regarding the one earning £100K… these wouldn’t surprise me..., the 'whole system' has been designed to run that way, to make footballers, stars, singers, and actors…, a multi-millionaires in very short time, what about a bus driver ( with all my respect to bus drivers ) who is just doing routine thing all his life, and earning as much as an engineer who spent 5 years at university before he got his engineering job... life is full of paradoxes... we can not change the system in a day and night..., but rather try to see things differently... someone once said: ‘what comes quick goes quick’,

You have spent years to build up your skills and experience which they do value too, and the most important thing is happiness in regards to what you are doing, just need to top it up with more knowledge from time to time… you may end-up to write or teach…

(I have heard of some Egyptian writer who learnt Spanish language in his 70s and translated the history books of Andalusia back into Arab language…)

[Thomas Brookes]

Thanks for your reply Benzerari.

As my wife keeps asking, what am I going to do when I grow up? Im still not sure.

[Benzerari]

Thanks for your reply Benzerari.

As my wife keeps asking, what am I going to do when I grow up? I m still not sure.

Thomas, try to read the first book, probably his unique one, of one of the best young and well known English entrepreneurs and multimillionaire, he is some one how made money from hard work and good thinking too...this will answer a lot of enquiries in your mind... it is my latest (hopefully not the last) book have read up till. And found it wonderful, it costs just: £6.99 in Waterston book shop

It is: the 'TYCOON' of Peter Jones.

Enjoy

[Thomas Brookes]

Not sure if you are still looking for a quote programme, but if you pm me I will email you a couple of ones we use from time to time.

[Benzerari]

Not sure if you are still looking for a quote programme, but if you pm me I will email you a couple of ones we use from time to time.

You can send them to: benzerari1966@yahoo.com , out of curiosity and thank you in advance