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Graeme

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HD/SD Installation
« Reply #30 on: September 21, 2008, 08:35:52 PM »
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Yes..we have alarm sounders in each room. Would that be a problem ???

That would seem a reasonable price to me Wiz. ie around the £35.00 mark

and here I come to it.................

All you good folk giving me Jip because I defended some unknown hotel for charging £1600.00 due to a false alarm

Lets have some comments on...........

£95.00 per SD from a respected specialist fire alarm engineering company (not a national company)

So who's doing who here
Put me up fer a couple of nites with a bar tab and I'll see what I can do for you!!!!
That's going to be even more expensive than the £95 per head quote.

Offline Allen Higginson

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« Reply #31 on: September 21, 2008, 08:37:17 PM »
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Hi all

Yes..we have alarm sounders in each room. Would that be a problem ???

That would seem a reasonable price to me Wiz. ie around the £35.00 mark

and here I come to it.................

All you good folk giving me Jip because I defended some unknown hotel for charging £1600.00 due to a false alarm

Lets have some comments on...........

£95.00 per SD from a respected specialist fire alarm engineering company (not a national company)

So who's doing who here
Put me up fer a couple of nites with a bar tab and I'll see what I can do for you!!!!
That's going to be even more expensive than the £95 per head quote.
Two nights away from the wife and kids - feck,I'll pay for the heads myself!!!!!

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« Reply #32 on: September 22, 2008, 09:12:12 AM »
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Your 95 per point does that allow disposal under the Weee directive ?
I didn't think detectors came under WEE as yet?
My price estimate to davidrh included redundant equipment disposal. Since the redundant equipment is HD, there is no disposal problem. Obviously ionisation smoke would have been a different kettle of radioactivity.

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« Reply #33 on: March 02, 2009, 11:18:03 AM »
Just a follow up to my "local difficulty"

You will remember that my local FB asked me to put strips and seals on all of my hotel bedroom fire door.....which I did not like at all

The bedrooms (40 odd) all had HD's fitted

The whole system worled fine and was inspected yearly

However, as I was against installing stips and seals the brigade asked me to change the bedroom HD's to SD's

As the whole hotel, including all bedrooms is NON SMOKING I reluctantly agreed and the work was done in January

You all know what I am going to say next

False alarms...not many but enough to cause inconvienence for all in the hotel ...caused by smokers in bedrooms. (and thats not to mention the old sock trick...what are people like ??)

We are doing our best and ask everyone to sign a registration document that confirms they will not smoke on penalty of a £150.00 "cleaning" fine

My problem now is making sure staff take alarms seriously...and as a matter of course we now do not automatically call the brigade

We had a system..it worked well....They fixed that

It was changed for changes sake !!!!!!!!!!!


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« Reply #34 on: March 02, 2009, 11:59:06 AM »
Everytime the alarm has activated, has it always been caused by smokers in the room?
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« Reply #35 on: March 02, 2009, 03:04:47 PM »
As far as we know...

They will  deny smoking .......  bare faced lies

But then you find ash in the sink...and a lighter under the bed

I kid not

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« Reply #36 on: March 02, 2009, 06:57:59 PM »
There is always going to be an element of unwanted alarms caused by this in hotels, as standard smoke sensors are basically just doing there job.

Something on the back of the bedroom door saying about the sensors are very sensitive etc might be a good idea, and even on the desk adjacent the bed, just incase they dont look on the back of the bedroom door indicating this, may reduce this slightly.

Is a common problem across hotels, with smoking in potentially a confined space.

Bit of a tricky one, but there are always some people who wont risk the rain for a sneaky cigarette.  But on the other hand it's weighing up the risk of a potential fire in the room and the loss of life against this.

You don't seem to have the problem of steam from the bathroom causing false alarms on the detector head, which can also be common, which shows good progress.
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Re: HD/SD Installation
« Reply #37 on: March 11, 2009, 07:34:07 PM »


However, as I was against installing stips and seals the brigade asked me to change the bedroom HD's to SD's

As the whole hotel, including all bedrooms is NON SMOKING I reluctantly agreed and the work was done in January




Why did you not challenge the FA?