International fire safety standards ???

[Mr. P]

Yes, one countrys' regs can be imposed in another.  This is how- for purposes of the armed forces as visitors, in semi or permeant accomodation.  Both countries regs are considered.  The higher, more stringent must be met where there is difference or confliction of requirements.
Easy examples of these are US visiting forces in Britain and Germany and British Forces in Germany and other locations.

[Benzerari]

Why should we try to impose our standards on other nations?

Why not let them decide for themselves their priorites and thresholds of tolerable risk.

This smacks of imperialism.

It used to be called imperialism in the old days, now it’s ‘Americanization’ in the guise of ‘Globalization’ which affected every bit…etc :lol:

[Benzerari]

As per the original post, what I mean is; technically there are a lot of common points in all local standards..., which can be standardized into one common international draft, but regarding other technical differences that's where the discussion may rely!

[Midland Retty]

Whilst there are some common points which could be standardised there is no real political will or need for an "International Standard" to be produced.

As someone already mentioned it has to be down to each country to decide what they deem acceptable based around their own needs, expectations and priorities.

Also certain components or configurations may behave differently depending on local conditions.

Would you for instance need the same type of fire safety regulations covering forests located in a hot dry country where forest fires are commonplace as you would in a cold and damp country where forest fires seldom occur?

[Benzerari]

Whilst there are some common points which could be standardised there is no real political will or need for an "International Standard" to be produced.

As someone already mentioned it has to be down to each country to decide what they deem acceptable based around their own needs, expectations and priorities.

I have initially mentioned that the discussion is from a technical point of view, regardless of the political decisions..., since we are not there to decide on their behalf... etc

[Benzerari]

Would you for instance need the same type of fire safety regulations covering forests located in a hot dry country where forest fires are commonplace as you would in a cold and damp country where forest fires seldom occur?

An 'If ... then ...  else...' statement would do the the job Midland retty, why not ?  

[Midland Retty]

Would you for instance need the same type of fire safety regulations covering forests located in a hot dry country where forest fires are commonplace as you would in a cold and damp country where forest fires seldom occur?

An 'If ... then ...  else...' statement would do the the job Midland retty, why not ?  

You could have a statement / policy or procedure that tries to be a "one size fits all" solution, but in reality it would be a very long, stodgy statement / policy / procedure and it probably wouldn't work.

[Benzerari]

Fire is still fire every where..., disability considerations in regards to fire safety should be quite the same every where..., detectors spacing should obviously be the same every where..., the methodology of fire risk assessment shouldn't have any difference..., the gas agent distinguishing fire is almost the same every where apart from the russian experience... etc, and a lot more may be standardized into one international draft... etc

[jokar]

Some hotels in the UK have adopted the NFPA standard for hotels.

[Benzerari]

Some hotels in the UK have adopted the NFPA standard for hotels.

Would that be acceptable in this country?

[Peter Wilkinson]

That's probably because it is an American hotel chain, with an American insurer.  It is often the insurer who specifies the required standard- not necessarily a bad thing.  I bet the hotel is sprinklered as well?

[Benzerari]

One remarkable thing about American system is that if alarm goes off for what so ever reason the sprinkler triggers straight away, which may cause a mess... But I haven't seen yet in this country the sprinkler linked to fire alarm system back way, by means the FAS trigger the sprinkler..., I have seen a link one way only.

Forget double knock when it’s different agent such FM200 … etc

Any one else experienced some thing different?

[wee brian]

No mate, that only happens in James Bond Films. US sprinklers are the same as UK ones.

One other reason that US chains use sprinklers is because US Civil Searvants arent allowed to stay in unsprinklered hotels.

[Benzerari]

No mate, that only happens in James Bond Films. US sprinklers are the same as UK ones.

One other reason that US chains use sprinklers is because US Civil Searvants arent allowed to stay in unsprinklered hotels.

Wee B;

I am not particularly talking about the sprinkler, I agree they are quite the same even every in the world, I amm rather talking about the link between FAS and sprinklers 

[kurnal]

Benz each individual sprinkler head is sealed  and no sprinkler head will ever open unless the individual sprinkler head is heated up to the necessary temperature - typically 68 degrees C. Only the sprinkler heads directly exposed to the heat will operate- most fires are controlled by one or two heads only.

The system you describe of multiple sprinkler heads controlled by smoke detectors is almost unknown and would only ever be found in specific risk critical industrial process equipment.