Buying British Standards.

[Thomas Brookes]

Is everyone feeling the same as me that having to keep paying for new British Standards is a bit of a rip off or at least painfully expensive.

I was wondering if what some one told me recently is true as it may save us all money.

I was told that if my company buys a copy of British Standard say 5839-1. I can then copy this for my engineers as a working copy (or something like that) as long as Im not selling it and using it internally to my company.

Now assuming that this is true, could all of us on here become members of a group ( FireNet standards group) for the want of a better title. and then the group buys a copy of the BS5839-1 and then give a working copy to all members.

So over to anyone who knows this side of british standards.

[The Reiver]

http://www.bsi-global.com/en/Legal/Copyright/

You are probably refering to this:

Hard copies of the BSI document may be printed by the named user for his own, non-commercial purposes.

But I'm thinking that your suggestion more falls into this bit:

Multi User Sales: Users who wish to place the downloaded British Standard on an internal network or intranet are invited to apply to the Direct Sales Team at the following address:............

Which sounds expensive (the mention of "sales team" clinches it)

[Allen Higginson]

http://www.bsi-global.com/en/Legal/Copyright/

You are probably refering to this:

Hard copies of the BSI document may be printed by the named user for his own, non-commercial purposes.

But I'm thinking that your suggestion more falls into this bit:

Multi User Sales: Users who wish to place the downloaded British Standard on an internal network or intranet are invited to apply to the Direct Sales Team at the following address:............

Which sounds expensive (the mention of "sales team" clinches it)

It also relates to an intranet or internal network,which this isn't.
Nice idea though!

[Allen Higginson]

http://www.bsi-global.com/en/Legal/Copyright/

You are probably refering to this:

Hard copies of the BSI document may be printed by the named user for his own, non-commercial purposes.

But I'm thinking that your suggestion more falls into this bit:

Multi User Sales: Users who wish to place the downloaded British Standard on an internal network or intranet are invited to apply to the Direct Sales Team at the following address:............

Which sounds expensive (the mention of "sales team" clinches it)

It also relates to an intranet or internal network,which this isn't.
Nice idea though!

[Graeme]

it's annoying when i.e 5839-1 is ammended that you cannot just buy the ammendments to add to the original instead of the whole thing again and again.

[David Rooney]

it's annoying when i.e 5839-1 is ammended that you cannot just buy the ammendments to add to the original instead of the whole thing again and again.

Doesn't it depend on the size of the amendment..... and then ofcourse there's the guide.........!!

[jokar]

You are not allowed under copyright law to buy and then copy BSI documents.  Max 2 years at her majestys pleasure for doing such a thing.  BSI are a money making organisation and thats why they keep amending things and no longer issuing amendment sheets.  The new thing is much more profitable.  You could of course sign up to a something like tionestop and then download all you like.

[Benzerari]

Is everyone feeling the same as me that having to keep paying for new British Standards is a bit of a rip off or at least painfully expensive.

I was wondering if what some one told me recently is true as it may save us all money.

I was told that if my company buys a copy of British Standard say 5839-1. I can then copy this for my engineers as a working copy (or something like that) as long as Im not selling it and using it internally to my company.

Now assuming that this is true, could all of us on here become members of a group ( FireNet standards group) for the want of a better title. and then the group buys a copy of the BS5839-1 and then give a working copy to all members.

So over to anyone who knows this side of british standards.

BS is a matter of money as much as standard! Good idea...  to have free access to BS print outs... but make sure not to be caught at the court... it still the property of BSI ... etc, not to be distributed... etc

[Tom Sutton]

You could of course sign up to a something like tionestop and then download all you like. ?? :rolleyes:

[jokar]

Sorry TW I miss your meaning.

[Tom Sutton]

What is tionestop

[jokar]

It is an online technical database where all guides and standrads are available at a cost of course to a subscriber.  Google it and find out more.

[Tom Sutton]

Sorry I should have Google it as you suggested. I had heard of it as IHS but not by its former name.

[jokar]

Perhaps if numbers of you are interested you could assess whether you could jointly fund this approach if costs are prohibitive to individuals.  Mind you it could be a tax incentive for businesses.

[Benzerari]

High-tech articles cost between £20 and £40, I don't see the point, why one part of BS costs £300? Since BS itself is not yet High tech!