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Offline Thomas Brookes

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Asbestos Training for Alarm & Light Installers??
« on: December 05, 2008, 08:40:40 PM »
Hello All,

Does anyone know of a company or person who does a very good quality Asbestos training course.
I am looking to get all our installers & managers training on Asbestos. I like recomendations as aposed to just doing a google search, so if any one has any advice please let me know. It doesnt matter where the course is located as we can travel for the right course.
Over to you chaps

Thanks Tom
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Re: Asbestos Training for Alarm & Light Installers??
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2008, 10:07:31 PM »
What content are you looking for - our place does asbestos courses & can tailor content to your requirements too.
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Re: Asbestos Training for Alarm & Light Installers??
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2008, 10:22:59 PM »
I have a powerpoint I could email to you- source was the HSE.( it may even still be a free download from their website- thats where I got it from originally)

I would have thought that basic awareness is all you need as most business and public buildings should have had a survey? If no survey has been completed then no work that disturbs surfaces should be undertaken.

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Re: Asbestos Training for Alarm & Light Installers??
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2008, 10:30:49 PM »
Hello Anthony,

I think its called Asbestos Awareness. Its to equip the fire alarm installers in asbestos safety and also to cover the Company on the legal side of things. Its not for removing or distrubing etc just so they know what to look for
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Re: Asbestos Training for Alarm & Light Installers??
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2008, 10:41:00 PM »
All asbestos sites I have been involved into, we haven't been allowed to access into, only very few workers accessed the site, with COSMOS overall (every thing covered), if I can be of any help I would…

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Re: Asbestos Training for Alarm & Light Installers??
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2008, 10:58:54 PM »
Hi Kurnal,

I have that one, Im under the impression (and I could be wrong) that any staff who may be installing cables I.e drilling through walls ceilings etc etc, should have asbestos awareness training.
This is not for site that have declared asbestos risks, but to give the men an idea of where it could be and in what products and items. Sort of a fail safe.

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Re: Asbestos Training for Alarm & Light Installers??
« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2008, 11:43:27 PM »
Our place does similar courses for building managers, engineers and caretakers etc & with input from the fire safety section could slant it to your needs - PM me for details of who to ask.

We have a large asbestos surveying dept so it would be from people that know what they are talking about rather than reading off a set of trainer's notes.
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Re: Asbestos Training for Alarm & Light Installers??
« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2008, 12:27:53 AM »
As an engineer myself, everyone in the company i work for did an asbestos awareness course. this is very relevant as i work in a banking environment where nearlly every site has asbestos.

You need to know where asbestos might be present and know what to look for, if you think you might have disturbed some asbestos, stop work IMMEDIATLEY, inform the site manager and get it checked. better to be safe than dead.

most public sites should have had an asbestos survey over recent time, if so there will be an asbestos register detailing any asbestos found and its condition. there will then be an advisory with it.

asbestos is safe when its sealed and undisturbed and in good condition.

Alll this is discussed in the awareness course.

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Re: Asbestos Training for Alarm & Light Installers??
« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2009, 01:08:23 PM »
Hello All,

Does anyone know of a company or person who does a very good quality Asbestos training course.
I am looking to get all our installers & managers training on Asbestos. I like recomendations as aposed to just doing a google search, so if any one has any advice please let me know. It doesnt matter where the course is located as we can travel for the right course.
Over to you chaps

Thanks Tom
http://www.eca.co.uk/SupportServices/EducationAndTraining/programme.asp

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Re: Asbestos Training for Alarm & Light Installers??
« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2009, 01:19:58 AM »
Ask to see the Asbestos Register BEFORE you do any work on site.

Any normal mask from a DIY shop is useless for protecting yourself from breathing in asbestos.
Special masks / breathing apparatus is used and cost a few hundred pounds at least.
Its illegal to work on asbestos unless you are a registered authorised company.
You can be fined thousands of pounds if you knowingley disturb it.

You can find lots of free advice about asbestos online..you only need to type in HSE into google and the health and safety executive website will give you an insight into the dangers of asbestos.

2 million particles of asbestos can occupy the space of a pin head..its that small.

No asbestos is safe if it is broken...relatively safe if undisturbed but if i see it i dont work anywhere near it..intact or otherwise.

When asbestos is removed it should be done by specialists and the area sealed.

If in doubt..dont touch disturb or drill the area you are working on.

You cannot tell by looking if its asbestos.
You can find it in ceiling tiles, floor tiles,fire doors,boilers and loads of other places.

Be safe..not a statistic.

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Re: Asbestos Training for Alarm & Light Installers??
« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2009, 01:28:54 AM »
Asbestos
Asbestos attracts particular attention because it has had such a devastating effect
for so many people.
There are three common types
1. White (chrysotile),
2. Brown (amosite)
3. Blue (crocidolite)
People working directly with asbestos are clearly at risk, but the main problem is
that it has had many applications in the past, and this leads to exposure to others
for many years after. Typical uses included:
• Pipe lagging;
• Ceiling tiles;
• Roof and wall sheeting (asbestos cement);
• Coatings sprayed on to steel structures to provide fire insulation;
• Thermal insulation in lofts and walls;
• Gaskets.
Illnesses caused by asbestos inhalation include
• Pneumoconiosis;
• Asthma;
• Asbestosis;
• Mesothelioma;
• Lung cancer.
Asbestos is covered by the Control of Asbestos at Work Regulations 2006. They
create a duty on employers if workers are likely to come into contact with asbestos
based materials or if there is asbestos based material in the workplace.
A suitable and sufficient assessment of the presence and type of asbestos is
required prior to commencement of work. Where there is doubt it should be
assumed that asbestos is present and that all the applicable provisions of the
regulations apply. Anyone likely to be exposed to asbestos at work requires
training. Where asbestos is found in the workplace a decision needs to be made
about whether it needs to be removed or made safe whilst leaving it is position (i.e.
encapsulated). Most activities involving asbestos must be performed by
companies licensed to do so, although there are some exceptions, the most notable
being work with textured decorative coatings such as Artex, although precautions
are still required.
There are two Approved Codes of Practice
• L143 “Work with materials containing asbestos” - Gives an in-depth look at
the Regulations
• L127 “The management of asbestos in non-domestic premises” - Deals with
how to manage asbestos.