Author Topic: Large storage buildings built in the 1950s- 1970s  (Read 5157 times)

Offline kurnal

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Large storage buildings built in the 1950s- 1970s
« on: December 06, 2008, 04:41:26 PM »
Local Enactments- eg Manchester Act 1985, Surrey Act 1985 passed in the early 1980s gave some control over large storage buildings over 7000 cubic metres and led to the installation of sprinklers, compartmentation and ventilation in new buildings in some council areas where the local enactments applied.

Please does anybody know whether there were any earlier enactments in place prior to those passed in the 1980s that may have had a similar effect? Or prior to the local acts of the 1980s were sprinklers only required in storage buildings under Building Regulations or at the behest of the Insurance Companies?



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Re: Large storage buildings built in the 1950s- 1970s
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2008, 06:22:05 PM »
Most of those local acts you refer to are reinactments of earlier legislation.

God knwos how you would find out what they were and what they said.

7000m3 comes from 60feet * 60 feet * 60 feet. You can thank Massey Shaw for that.

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Re: Large storage buildings built in the 1950s- 1970s
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2008, 07:39:21 PM »
60 feet x 60 feet x 60 feet = 6116m3

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Re: Large storage buildings built in the 1950s- 1970s
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2008, 12:48:55 AM »
I think that Massey actually said 250,000 cubic feet, when someone asked him the stupid question as to what size of unlimited fire volume the greatest fire brigade in the whole of....London could control. It was probably a bit like saying that the answer to the perplexities of the universe is 42. (God, I can feel a post from Benzo coming on.) He was probably busy at the time, pondering on what to buy Mrs Shaw for Christmas and hoped that the silly sod asking the question would go away if he gave an answer. Since he died in 1908, we cant really ask him now. (Perhaps Kurnal did discuss this with him at some time though when he was alive and could tell us what Massey really thought.) As Brian said, Local acts have a slef live and need constantly re-enacted. They certianly go back further than the current versions.
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Re: Large storage buildings built in the 1950s- 1970s
« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2008, 12:00:04 PM »
On amalgamation in 1974 most local authorities had many bye laws and I think it was these that were the basis of the Local Acts. There was a period of about ten years to allow the new authorities to assess the situation before the local acts became law, some bye laws were made redundant and new ones added. Trying to research any bye laws in a particular area would be extremely difficult.
All my responses only apply to England and Wales and they are an overview of the subject, hopefully it will point you in the right direction and always treat with caution.

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Re: Large storage buildings built in the 1950s- 1970s
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2008, 03:32:10 PM »
So did you actually go off an do the maths!  Are things a bit quiet for you at the mo?

Best to ask the oldest BCO in the area and see if he knows.

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Re: Large storage buildings built in the 1950s- 1970s
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2008, 03:51:34 PM »
So did you actually go off an do the maths!  Are things a bit quiet for you at the mo?

Actually I'm super busy, but I never trust anything I read and I have a fancy phone that does converstions.