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Offline JPAH

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Cost of a system
« on: March 12, 2009, 05:12:20 PM »
Could anyone give me an idea of the cost to install a simple BS5839-1 system?

It is purely to get an idea in my head so say a simple three storey building with a single stair.  Lets say a cat L4 system - single detector and mcp on each stair landing. 

Would £2500-3500 be about right???? 

Any comments much appreciated.

Offline Allen Higginson

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Re: Cost of a system
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2009, 06:26:10 PM »
Probably a bit on the  light side tbh. but not knowing the layout and dimensions would really be a guess.
Who has determined that an L4 system is adequate?

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Re: Cost of a system
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2009, 06:52:47 PM »
Probably a bit on the  light side tbh. but not knowing the layout and dimensions would really be a guess.
Who has determined that an L4 system is adequate?
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Is there a loose rule for a guesstimate of the cost of installations say for example so much per head and break glass point and for associated cabling and the cost of a panel to suit the number of actuation points?
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Offline Allen Higginson

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Re: Cost of a system
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2009, 07:07:33 PM »
If you use the same contractor all the time then you can sometimes come to an agreement on a per point price (anything from £85 to £120) on a "normal" installation (per point being each termination).This then works on a "swings and roundabout" principle where they might take the hit on one but generally cone out ahead on the rest.
If you use a two wire system then you'll save on cabling.


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Re: Cost of a system
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2009, 07:46:09 PM »
Thats a little how longs a piece of string question. More info would be needed to guess
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Re: Cost of a system
« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2009, 08:00:06 PM »
If you use the same contractor all the time then you can sometimes come to an agreement on a per point price (anything from £85 to £120) on a "normal" installation (per point being each termination).This then works on a "swings and roundabout" principle where they might take the hit on one but generally cone out ahead on the rest.
If you use a two wire system then you'll save on cabling.


Would that guesstimate of say £120 per termination for your run of the mill system include the cabling and panel?
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Re: Cost of a system
« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2009, 08:03:34 PM »
Thats a little how longs a piece of string question. More info would be needed to guess
It is only a guesstimate Thomas so that the non electro types like me can offer a rough price rather than asking for something for which I know nothing of the cost.
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Re: Cost of a system
« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2009, 08:58:54 PM »
Being a conventional system I would say, allow £100 per device (detector, or MCP, sounder could be incorporated into the detector) and a guid of say £300 for the panel.  Then allow say, £250 commissioning. Therefore your estimate will more than cover this if it's an L4, and we're assuming a detector on each landing and MCP's plus sounders.
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Offline John Dragon

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Re: Cost of a system
« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2009, 07:46:24 AM »
Could anyone give me an idea of the cost to install a simple BS5839-1 system?

It is purely to get an idea in my head so say a simple three storey building with a single stair.  Lets say a cat L4 system - single detector and mcp on each stair landing. 

Would £2500-3500 be about right???? 

Any comments much appreciated.


On info given, sounds way over the top.

Offline Allen Higginson

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Re: Cost of a system
« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2009, 12:06:16 PM »
4 zone,6 heads,4 MCP's,sounder bases,one sounder at panel,batts + commissioning = round about £700.Installaton would be additional of course and depends on mark up (if any) on electrical contractors price.
« Last Edit: March 13, 2009, 08:23:57 PM by Buzzard905 »

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Re: Cost of a system
« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2009, 06:25:58 PM »
I would expect to see a figure somewhere in the region of £1700.00 for supply install and commission
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Re: Cost of a system
« Reply #11 on: March 13, 2009, 06:45:30 PM »
I would expect to see a figure somewhere in the region of £1700.00 for supply install and commission
How would you break it down BF?
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Offline Allen Higginson

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Re: Cost of a system
« Reply #12 on: March 13, 2009, 08:34:19 PM »
It all depends who is doing the job - an electrical contractor will do it cheaper than a company who has to sub out the install.
In our case it would be closer to the £2500 mark (which I'd say would be the upper limit for using better gear) but it's horses for courses

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Re: Cost of a system
« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2009, 08:46:40 PM »
I would expect to see a figure somewhere in the region of £1700.00 for supply install and commission
How would you break it down BF?

Basically I would say Around £1000 for install, £450 for kit and around £250 for sommissioning. Based on the information given of detectors/MCP's per floor etc.

Give or take about £10%
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