Author Topic: fire authority suggests "house hold" detectors in a commercial property...?  (Read 11125 times)

Offline jokar

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Umm let me think, Part 6 for domestic premises and part for commercial premises.

Offline Simon72

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Well David

if it has the 'Gold Top' detectors then it is non-compliant with BS5839 Part 1 as the device  has no visual indication of activation, and therefore cannot be determined to have worked on testing?? mind you they look nice dont they all gold and sparkly!

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Offline Allen Higginson

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Well David

if it has the 'Gold Top' detectors then it is non-compliant with BS5839 Part 1 as the device  has no visual indication of activation, and therefore cannot be determined to have worked on testing?? mind you they look nice dont they all gold and sparkly!

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simon
Non-compliant to the current standards but were okay at time of install and original design spec.

Offline GregC

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But if the building has had a change of use, it should be updated to cover the new use, to the standards applicable at the time surely?

Offline David Rooney

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But if the building has had a change of use, it should be updated to cover the new use, to the standards applicable at the time surely?

I agree and we have condemned the complete system but blimey.... try telling the owner she's got to pay £5k for a new system she'd have a heart attack .... having to cancel her foreign holiday.....
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Offline Richr

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We maintain an old 5839 pt1 system in a kiddy/daycare centre... big "warehouse" type building with climbing frames etc

If its L1, total detection, then of course a battery detector wont be satisfactory. unless for maybe a very short term solution. Additional part 1 devices should be installed within days. The cost is irrelivant. Have you ever seen a nursery bill  ;D

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We maintain an old 5839 pt1 system in a kiddy/daycare centre... big "warehouse" type building with climbing frames etc

If its L1, total detection, then of course a battery detector wont be satisfactory. unless for maybe a very short term solution. Additional part 1 devices should be installed within days. The cost is irrelivant. Have you ever seen a nursery bill  ;D

Yes.... almost as much as a care home.......

But cost is relevant when the customer won't pay it....!!
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