CP 1019 Manual Fire Alarm

[Gazza]

 Can anyone tell me what the situation is with regard to the above ie is this type of system still acceptable

Cheers

[kurnal]

What is the type, size and use of the building?

The fire risk assessment will determine whether it remains suitable and sufficient for the building. If for example it was found in a small building used as an office with good means of escape and is in good condition, was installed to a good standard and can be maintained it may still be ok. On the other hand for a multi occupied building especially if used as seperate business units, many of which may be unnoccupied, or a large building then it may be time to upgrade to a zoned system and consider  detection.

[Gazza]

Thanks for that Kurnal most helpfull

[AnthonyB]

I would also consider how it has been cabled and as to weather it is 240V only or has a battery back up.

If it's 240V only, or doesn't even have fire resisting cables to the sounder circuit (let alone the detection/alarm ones) then I would say it must go.

Older system sometimes suffer from inadequate sounder & call point provision - found a G-1-2 floor buliding this week with only a single bell & call point directly off 240V no back up, indicator, or reset panel. (it's being replaced, but was in use until this year).

Sometimes these systems are not (or cannot be) properly maintained and have batteries in poor order and the control panels require replacing as indicator bulbs, switches and other functions are not working with no parts available.

In the right (limited) circumstances a 24V 'm' type system to the old CP1019 can be OK, although I would always advise an action plan for replacement over the years so that the budget is available - eventually it will fail beyond repair and you want to have the cash to replace it and not be suddenly stuck with finding £x,000 to keep your premises open.