Author Topic: Limits of 'General Fire Precautions'  (Read 5075 times)

Offline AM

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Limits of 'General Fire Precautions'
« on: September 03, 2009, 03:57:58 PM »
I have a query regarding the limits of 'General Fire Precautions' in relations to process risk:

If I have a warehouse, and a small fraction of the items stored there have been identified as evolving O2 when involved in a fire. As this relates to storage (which is defined as a process risk in the FSO and GN/1), would this need to be specfically identified on an FSO risk assessment, or would it be under other HSE legislation? The building is provided with in rack sprinklers (to the appropriate hazard class) and ventilation on AFD, and a fire engineered solution has determined that the MOE are satisfactory in terms of ASET and RSET

Offline Mike Buckley

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Re: Limits of 'General Fire Precautions'
« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2009, 05:00:09 PM »
Possibly both, dependant on the hazards presented by the substances and the processes. Obviously there is a hazard if the substance is exposed to fire, and the measures for controlling that hazard need to be recorded but there may be others which need to be assessed under different regulations such as COSHH, Manual Handling etc.

The real fun starts when the control measures contridict each other.
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Re: Limits of 'General Fire Precautions'
« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2009, 08:14:36 PM »
The storage of the goods will principally come under the other associated H&S legislation. However the fire risk assessment should take account of any additional risks arising should the product become involved in fire. If as you say the storage is appropriate to the sprinkler system installed and assuming the evolution of the oxygen been taken into account with regard to the sprinkler design (I would be very interested to know the data source used to support this) then the only factor to be considered bya fire risk assessment is whether this evolution of oxygen places relevant persons at risk and if so what would be the appropriate risk control measures to reduce the risk to a tolerable level.

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Re: Limits of 'General Fire Precautions'
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2009, 09:45:26 AM »
There is another thread relating to chemicals that might have some good info to add to the last two comments.

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Re: Limits of 'General Fire Precautions'
« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2009, 04:17:41 PM »

The real fun starts when the control measures contridict each other.

Yes there is a situation I know where the H&S COSHH report and Safety Data Sheet from the company for a chemical (Hydrogen Peroxide and Peroxyacetic Acid Mixture) states that it should be stored in a 'cool dry place'...so they think it's ok to store it in a hospital service corridor which is also a MOE corridor...well it is cool and dry!...well so is a primary school desk...lets plonk it on there!...sorry being cynical today

Incidently it's interesting how different two different Chemical Safety Data Sheets can be from different companies for the same chemical