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Offline Mr. P

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Fire Safety Works Costs
« on: November 30, 2009, 12:16:40 PM »
People often ask how much will this or that cost. Here are some real examples that have come my way, do you think the costs seem fair?

1) Remove old manually operated gong from Bld 1, overhaul and refix at Bld 2           £120
2) Electrical Safety check of Bld 2                                                                    £280
3) To provide Emergency lighting system to Bld 2 (to BS 5266)                             £1440
4) Portable Appliance test of goods in Bld 2                                                          £50       
5) Company Management Fee                                                                           £285
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                                                             Total Cost plus VAT                             £2116

Bld 1

1) New Fire Alarm system to comply with current British Standards (L5)                     £3307
(on visiting - seems like L1!)
2) Electrical safety Check of the Building & Portacabin                                              £560             
3) One off addition Emergency light 3 hour battery life                                              £155
4) Portable Appliance test of goods in building                                                           £50
4) Company Management fee                                                                                £612
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                                                               Total cost plus VAT                             £4684

Bld 1 is apprx 250 m2, 2 floors
Bld 2 is apprx 40 m2 1 floor
within spitting distance of each other.
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Re: Fire Safety Works Costs
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2009, 12:37:07 PM »
Quote from: Mr. P on November 30, 2009, 12:16:40 PM
People often ask how much will this or that cost. Here are some real examples that have come my way, do you think the costs seem fair?

1) Remove old manually operated gong from Bld 1, overhaul and refix at Bld 2           £120
2) Electrical Safety check of Bld 2                                                                    £280
3) To provide Emergency lighting system to Bld 2 (to BS 5266)                             £1440
4) Portable Appliance test of goods in Bld 2                                                          £50       
5) Company Management Fee                                                                           £285
                                                                                                                -----------------
                                                             Total Cost plus VAT                             £2116

Bld 1

1) New Fire Alarm system to comply with current British Standards (L5)                     £3307
(on visiting - seems like L1!)
2) Electrical safety Check of the Building & Portacabin                                              £560             
3) One off addition Emergency light 3 hour battery life                                              £155
4) Portable Appliance test of goods in building                                                           £50
4) Company Management fee                                                                                £612
                                                                                                               ---------------------
                                                               Total cost plus VAT                             £4684

Bld 1 is apprx 250 m2, 2 floors
Bld 2 is apprx 40 m2 1 floor
within spitting distance of each other.
It depends very much on the size, layout and use of the buildings Mr P.
Would need to see layout or plans.
Despite what installers say not everywhere needs emergency lighting and fire alarm systems.


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Offline Mr. P

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Re: Fire Safety Works Costs
« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2009, 02:22:18 PM »
NT, I knew it would be a tall order with such vague details, but, more could reveal location/owner & others involved.

Re your comment on light and noise  systems, yes exactly where I was coming from. My advice was not to worry with them to the detail in which they have been fitted, but customer went ahead anyway. Alot of money for facilites seldom used, considering small size and the layout etc.
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Re: Fire Safety Works Costs
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2009, 03:19:56 PM »
They want £1440 for putting E.L. in a 40 sq m single storey building??!

I'll do it for £1400!

Also, I'd be happy to downgrade the L1 system to an L5 for £3200.

Stu

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Re: Fire Safety Works Costs
« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2009, 03:40:58 PM »
Quote from: Phoenix on November 30, 2009, 03:19:56 PM
They want £1440 for putting E.L. in a 40 sq m single storey building??!

I'll do it for £1400!

Also, I'd be happy to downgrade the L1 system to an L5 for £3200.

Stu


I'd give them a few rechargable torches and air hooters for £140 Stu. Certainly in the small building anyway. Beat that.
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Offline Tom W

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Re: Fire Safety Works Costs
« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2009, 04:07:22 PM »
Why are you asking Mr P?!!!

Whats your involvement? 
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« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2009, 04:35:26 PM »
Quote from: Phoenix on November 30, 2009, 03:19:56 PM
They want £1440 for putting E.L. in a 40 sq m single storey building??!

I'll do it for £1400!

Also, I'd be happy to downgrade the L1 system to an L5 for £3200.

Stu

Pah ! For just £100 I could provide Lassie with a headtorch strapped around her head.

It would be good to get rough pro-rata "cost per unit" guide prices.

For instance cost of an FD30S fitted
Cost of emergency lighting unit fitted
Cost of a detector fitted
etc etc...
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Re: Fire Safety Works Costs
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2009, 04:41:27 PM »
Warning- it could be the tardis.
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Re: Fire Safety Works Costs
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2009, 04:43:38 PM »
Quote from: kurnal on November 30, 2009, 04:41:27 PM
Warning- it could be the tardis.
Who?
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Re: Fire Safety Works Costs
« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2009, 05:15:40 PM »
Would that be the Tennant?
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Offline Dinnertime Dave

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Re: Fire Safety Works Costs
« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2009, 08:20:52 AM »
Can`t resist joining in -

I`m a governor in a small school consists of four classrooms, a new system comprising of 7 mcp and 2 detectors to protect inner rooms £8000.

To provide one manual call point £313.   
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Re: Fire Safety Works Costs
« Reply #11 on: December 01, 2009, 08:51:12 AM »
Quote from: Dinnertime Dave on December 01, 2009, 08:20:52 AM
Can`t resist joining in -

I`m a governor in a small school consists of four classrooms, a new system comprising of 7 mcp and 2 detectors to protect inner rooms £8000.

To provide one manual call point £313.   
Is it a permanent non combustible structure or temporary prefab DD?
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Re: Fire Safety Works Costs
« Reply #12 on: December 01, 2009, 10:07:32 AM »
All of this shows the benefit of obtaining a number of quotations for any proposed works.

It is the only way to establish the 'correct' price.
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Offline Mike Buckley

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Re: Fire Safety Works Costs
« Reply #13 on: December 01, 2009, 10:15:31 AM »
Yes, but look at the acreditations of the companies as well. There are a load of cowboys out there who will fit anyhting to make a quick buck.

My last company got its gutters replaced. The Finance Director insisted on the cheapest quote he could find, the new gutters leak and the company has been done by the HSE!
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Re: Fire Safety Works Costs
« Reply #14 on: December 01, 2009, 01:22:09 PM »
Quote from: nearlythere on December 01, 2009, 08:51:12 AM
Is it a permanent non combustible structure or temporary prefab DD?
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It is a permanent structure built in the 70`s extended in the 90`s false ceilings throughout it isn`t a dirty or difficult installation.

The problem we have is the council has a preferred contractor which is a licence to print money.

As a FSO I have seen the same company quote £18000 for a job that eventually cost £4000. The £18K quote would have put the company concerned out of business.    
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