Flame retardant bin bags

[Tom Sutton]

I have been trying to source flame retardant black bin bags for some time now, and have come up across many obstacles - one, being that they seem extremely unpopular; and two, that the manufacturers that can make them will only consider a minimum order of several thousand, when we actually only need 100. The bin bags have to be flame retardant due to their use on stage in the company's production, however, I was wondering if I might be able to find some regular refuse sacks that come fireproofed as standard. Do you know where I might find information regarding this issue?

I received this unusual enquiry anybody got any idea's, Abbey Polythene has been tried.

[Tom W]

I don't know if this is breaking rules 

http://www.refusesacks.org.uk/store/index.php

http://www.nationwide-hygiene.com/NWEditor/nw10/content/uploads/Nationwide_Janitorial_Other.pdf

I don't work for these companies, have never used them and am not endorsing them but they do what you ask for.

[nearlythere]

I have been trying to source flame retardant black bin bags for some time now, and have come up across many obstacles - one, being that they seem extremely unpopular; and two, that the manufacturers that can make them will only consider a minimum order of several thousand, when we actually only need 100. The bin bags have to be flame retardant due to their use on stage in the company's production, however, I was wondering if I might be able to find some regular refuse sacks that come fireproofed as standard. Do you know where I might find information regarding this issue?

I received this unusual enquiry anybody got any idea's, Abbey Polythene has been tried.

Could you not find out who they supply several thoudands to and ask them if they would sell you what you require? Some free tickets to the show might do.
Worth a try

[John Webb]

I don't know exactly how they want to use these on stage, but if they are purely as decoration could they use cotton sheet dyed black and then treated with flame retardent? Bearing in mind that if it's not theatre in the round or a thrust stage the bags will be some distance from the audience and the detail not very visible.....

[Bobbins]

Just be careful about what goes inside them on stage; stuffing a fire retardant grade plastic bag with scrunched up news paper is not going to help at all Even the most retardant plastics in such a thin format wont protect the contents. I would suggest they fill them with furniture grade foam.

[Tom Sutton]

She has tried many web sites including yours piglet but it’s always a special order which means ordering thousands consequently very expensive. She has also tried your approach NT but there is no demand in the UK and any clients are in Europe or further a field also the manufacturers are not very cooperative.

I do not know how the bin bags are to be used but knowing these modern dance choreographers it’s likely the dancers will be wearing them but I will check it out.

[Tom Sutton]

Why the FR refuse bags are required,

"Well, 30+ plus woven laundry bags (flame proofed) holding about 7kilos of various clothes, which themselves, will be wrapped in our famous 'flame retardant bin bags' are to be dropped vertically onto stage from 8m high, and then thrown, slid and roughly handled with a contemporary dance piece. Eventually the bags are opened and all the clothes taken out and played with." 

[kurnal]

Presumably these are house rules that require the bin bags to be fire retardant.  Are 30 bags used as described such a significant risk that cannot be controlled in other ways through a SSOW? I would have thought that in the scheme of things some way could be found around this. After all other more signficant hazards such as pyrotechnics and real fires are used from time to time under the control of a SSOW.

[Tom Sutton]

Kurnal I suspect because the CLG guidance says things like "Ensure that display materials, scenery, props and exhibition stands, are fire retardant, or have been treated with a proprietary fire retardant treatment designed to enhance their fire performance".

As you are aware there are many code huggers floating about in the wings from both camps.

[John Webb]

I would have thought in that case dyed and flame-retarded pillowcases would adequately mimic dust-bin bags?