H&S common sense policing.

[nearlythere]

In view of Bill & Ben's "Programe for Government" where they intend to "Amend health and safety laws to ensure "common sense policing"", does the panel see any areas of the fire safety regs which may be ripe for modernising?
Mind you, in policital babble "policing" is different to H&S control measures.
It might just mean school boys not having to wear suits of armour when playing conkers.
Any views?

[kurnal]

In view of Bill & Ben's "Programe for Government" where they intend to "Amend health and safety laws to ensure "common sense policing"", does the panel see any areas of the fire safety regs which may be ripe for modernising?

Whenever I hear the term modernisation in this context I shiver with fright. Modernisation always seems to mean  wrecking good standards that have served us well for generations and replacing them with bull****, political dogma and ill conceived and ill considered cost saving tat.

Any change to the Fire Safety Order after just 4 years would be premature, expensive, disruptive  and a total admission of failure by all involved.  No the legislation should be left alone, standards of enforcement may justify review though.

[Hi Tower]

I heard on the news this morning that HIPS were being suspended with immediate effect and this would effectively put 3000 people out of work and fold many businesses.

With such rapid change can they do the same when it comes to fire safety - maybe public opinion is much more in favour of fire safety than HIPS so such a change would be far more difficult for Bill and Ben to implement?

[Mike Buckley]

HIPS is a different type of beast. It was a new idea and had nothing to do with saving life and other headline catching problems. It also affected the general public in that they had to pay for it to sell their house.

The RRO replaced an Act that was already in place. It concerns saving life, it fills the gaps which weren't covered as the Brigades never had the manpower to do all the work, the employers have to pay for it and you can reduce the number of public servants (fire officers) thus releasing money for more useful things (like duck houses for MPs). All in all a good thing.

So I don't see the RRO going, neither do I see it being overly modified unless someone drops a real clanger!

[Clevelandfire 3]

No it wont be scrapped but it is an opportunity for some mods to be made.

[hammer1]

HIPS is a different type of beast. It was a new idea and had nothing to do with saving life and other headline catching problems. It also affected the general public in that they had to pay for it to sell their house.

The RRO replaced an Act that was already in place. It concerns saving life, it fills the gaps which weren't covered as the Brigades never had the manpower to do all the work, the employers have to pay for it and you can reduce the number of public servants (fire officers) thus releasing money for more useful things (like duck houses for MPs). All in all a good thing.

So I don't see the RRO going, neither do I see it being overly modified unless someone drops a real clanger!

However it has ruined 1,000s of peoples jobs by a stroke of a pen. Don't forget the previous Government sought after said people to spend 3-5 grand getting trained and are now jobless with a worthless skill.

Surely compensation is in order here.

[Psuedonym]

Lets just thank the sheep who fell for the media homage and patronising bull and voted Bill & Ben in. One day we will develop a brain cell to evaluate things for ourselves. Gosh what a thought!

[Mike Buckley]

Hammer,

Being cynical, when has the government worried about people? Your arguement can be used for mining, shipbuilding, steel, etc. The whole thing is the NIMY problem, people don't care about the surveyors all they see is the £500 they need to fork oput before they sell their home.