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Offline FSO

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Re: HMO's
« Reply #15 on: September 28, 2010, 11:23:39 PM »
Hi Jokar

Why would they not come under the scope of the Housing act?

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Re: HMO's
« Reply #16 on: September 29, 2010, 11:44:21 AM »
They are specifically excluded as they are self contained and do not share facilities, see details under section 254.

Offline CivvyFSO

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Re: HMO's
« Reply #17 on: September 29, 2010, 03:13:35 PM »
They are only excluded from being a HMO, not excluded from the Housing Act.

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Re: HMO's
« Reply #18 on: September 29, 2010, 06:41:40 PM »
Exactly.  :)


Offline Tom Sutton

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Re: HMO's
« Reply #19 on: September 29, 2010, 09:22:44 PM »
Dont get confused by the differences between the English and Scottish Legislation. The definition of Domestic Premises is very different North and South of the border

In England those parts used in common by occupants of more than one dwelling  are NOT domestic premises and are subject to the Fire Safety Order.

In Scotland the definition of Domestic premises INCLUDES those areas used in common by occupants of more than one dwelling.  

I apologise for going off thread but kurnal's submission provided me with food for thought,

As I didn't realise there was such a major difference north of the boarder and does this mean the common areas in blocks of flats are exempt  from the Fire (Scotland) Act 2005 or is there other fire safety legislation covering them.
« Last Edit: September 29, 2010, 09:26:45 PM by Tom Sutton »
All my responses only apply to England and Wales and they are an overview of the subject, hopefully it will point you in the right direction and always treat with caution.

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Re: HMO's
« Reply #20 on: September 30, 2010, 06:52:47 AM »
Dont get confused by the differences between the English and Scottish Legislation. The definition of Domestic Premises is very different North and South of the border

In England those parts used in common by occupants of more than one dwelling  are NOT domestic premises and are subject to the Fire Safety Order.

In Scotland the definition of Domestic premises INCLUDES those areas used in common by occupants of more than one dwelling.  

I apologise for going off thread but kurnal's submission provided me with food for thought,

As I didn't realise there was such a major difference north of the boarder and does this mean the common areas in blocks of flats are exempt  from the Fire (Scotland) Act 2005 or is there other fire safety legislation covering them.
Same as in N.I. when the fire safety bits of the new Order commence.
Not sure about Scotland but in NI means of escape in HMOs come under The Housing (Northern Ireland) Order 1992 which is enforced by Housing Executive. There is just a requirement for HE to consultation with F&RS as part of enforcement process.
We're not Brazil we're Northern Ireland.

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Re: HMO's
« Reply #21 on: September 30, 2010, 08:36:45 AM »
Thanks NT but I am not referring to HMO I am talking about blocks of flats or tenements.

I have a feeling this may develop and hijack this thread so I will open a new thread Called "Definition of Domestic Premises".
All my responses only apply to England and Wales and they are an overview of the subject, hopefully it will point you in the right direction and always treat with caution.