Identifying Resposible person

[redman138]

If you are inspecting a family business and you find the family management all show ignorance as to who has over all control of the premises, i want to put a brief letter together telling them its up to them to tell me who RP is as opposed to me spending ages trying to identify them. I thought of incuding Art 27.
Has anyone got a draft version already written or any other quick fix?

[mr angry]

I have previously discussed a similar issue with one of our in house solicitors and the response was "serve notice/letter on all persons you believe to be dutyholder/responsible person". The fire safety risk assessment should also identify the dutyholder/responsible person.

[redman138]

Hi, thanks for the info, i will put togethrt a letter on those lines

[Nearlybaldandgrey]

Look at Article 27 .... you can write to them quoting the relevant parts requiring the production of information including the identity of the RP.

Sorry can't quote the actual parts!! 

[Tom Sutton]

Could you exercise art 27(1)(b)(ii) if they refuse to comply then do them under 32(2)(d) at least let them be clear of the situation.

You could grab him by the lapels and hoist him out of his chair this usually does the trick.

[CivvyFSO]

Either of those would work.

[Midland Retty]

Yep, I find "the Sweeney" approach is best

[Steven N]

More Gene Hunt meself Midland but either is ok 

[Clevelandfire 3]

Midland are you the john thaw or the dennis waterman of this ensemble?

and if youre the dennis waterman do you write the theme tune and sing the theme tune

[nearlythere]

You could grab him by the lapels and hoist him out of his chair this usually does the trick.

Flawed approach. What do you do if he/she is wearing a dress? My dresses don't have lapels just shoulder straps. My little off the shoulder number I usually wear to Paris has none.
Could you grab the shoulder straps?

[Tom Sutton]

You could grab another part of her anatomy which would do equally as well. However I would use gloves as you would not want to bruise her arms or leave fingerprints.

[Tadees]

If they give you incorrect information then they are committing an offence under Article 32(2)(c).  If they don't respond to you after you have served them a letter then Article 32(2)(d) would apply, as I recall in the not too distant past at Uni that, failing to respond can also amount to obstruction.