Lives of 60 children saved in Northern Ireland.

[Tom Sutton]

Compare the Surrey website with the NI one. Interesting! Why are we being so coy about the identity of this company.

[kurnal]

Thomas Google soon finds the source of the story.

Buzz as you know we are just a forum for the exchange of views, we have no powers to do anything to anybody.

But I think it legit to check on peoples credentials isn't it?

I have to pay a wad and jump through hoops to use the FIA logo. Likewise with those companies who pay to have their courses accredited by the IFE. I have no idea if this is genuine or misuse of either logo thats why I am careful not to make any accusations abut anything. Some companies have a number of trading names and only register one of these with the owner of the logo artwork.

[Allen Higginson]

Thomas Google soon finds the source of the story.

Buzz as you know we are just a forum for the exchange of views, we have no powers to do anything to anybody.

But I think it legit to check on peoples credentials isn't it?

I have to pay a wad and jump through hoops to use the FIA logo. Likewise with those companies who pay to have their courses accredited by the IFE. I have no idea if this is genuine or misuse of either logo thats why I am careful not to make any accusations abut anything. Some companies have a number of trading names and only register one of these with the owner of the logo artwork.

I was only talking in jest Kurnal - this company is based in Belfast and operates solely within NI (but I may be wrong) but there's absolutely nothing in stopping anyone checking up on credentials and testimonials.
For my tuppence worth,for having such a large customer base etc. I had never heard of them until I stumbled across them on a google.

[Allen Higginson]

Compare the Surrey website with the NI one. Interesting! Why are we being so coy about the identity of this company.

Actually,as it's in the public domain I don't know Tom - http://www.firesafetysolutionsni.co.uk/index.asp

[Tom Sutton]

I found another candidate. http://www.deleted by Kurnal.php I also found http://www.deleted by Kurnal.com/index.php and there are others ? http://www.fire-deleted by Kurnal.com/

[Allen Higginson]

The issue I and others have are from an engineers POV - some of the claims in the area of servicing are way off in my opinion.
I believe that internet advertising now falls within trading standards.

[kurnal]

Tom I dont believe we should start a campaign here to publicly list companies using the IFE or FIA Logo, one of those you name is certainly a member of both organisations and runs IFE accredited courses, I just dont know about the others or what the set up is.

If we list them here we not only give them free publicity but also increase their scoring on the search engines.

I suggest that if you have concerns the best action would be to drop a line direct to the IFE or FIA and send them the link. I know from past experience that the FIA will take action to stop unauthorized use of their logo.

[AnthonyB]

The company in question looks like a fire extinguisher and alarm firm doing FRA's & 'free surveys' to sell product.

A free no obligation survey is there to sell - overheads, wages, rent, etc all still have to be paid for and they wouldn't last long if they did these all the time and said 'all is fine'.

I'd love to do a hidden camera sting with a premises that is OK and see what they find wrong with the extinguishers/alarm/signs/etc and see how they try and get the manager to do the works....

[Tom Sutton]

kurnal My concern is we seem to be discussing different companies, the one I found has all the points raised by NT and is not the company Buzz identified or the company AB refers to, as they only conduct fire risk, health safety assessments and training. The company I identified  does have a number of branches or could be a franchises and as you said one of those is certainly a member of both organisations and runs IFE accredited courses. Like you I just don't know about the others or what the set up is and maybe they have the right to carry those logos as the website sites are very similar?

Before I went official I would need to know a lot more about the setup but I do agree the content of some does leave a lot to be desired.

  

[Allen Higginson]

kurnal My concern is we seem to be discussing different companies, the one I found has all the points raised by NT and is not the company Buzz identified or the company AB refers to, as they only conduct fire risk, health safety assessments and training. The company I identified  does have a number of branches or could be a franchises and as you said one of those is certainly a member of both organisations and runs IFE accredited courses. Like you I just don't know about the others or what the set up is and maybe they have the right to carry those logos as the website sites are very similar?

Before I went official I would need to know a lot more about the setup but I do agree the content of some does leave a lot to be desired.

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The company I ID'd is the one NT was talking about originally.

[kurnal]

Yes Tom I agree. Thanks for your concern which I know is founded within your values of fairness and justice.
I have already asked the question in respect of the website Nearlythere quoted. I will find out about the status of the others in another way and will let you know by pm as soon as I have an answer.