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FSO Regulators Guidance Document
« on: May 27, 2011, 03:51:46 PM »
This new guidance for Regulators of the Fire Safety Order was released by CFOA in April 2011

http://www.cfoa.org.uk/11541

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Re: FSO Regulators Guidance Document
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2011, 12:01:47 AM »
well it must be right then.
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Re: FSO Regulators Guidance Document
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2011, 03:21:40 PM »
It makes it quite clear that it doesn't claim to be "right."  But it does appear to strive to be helpful.  Whether or not it will be effective or, perhaps more importantly, cost effective remains to be seen.  It does appear to contain some pragmatic guidance and may prove to be a catalyst for cohesion among FRSs.

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Re: FSO Regulators Guidance Document
« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2011, 10:05:41 PM »
Cohesion-what like the CFOA false alarm policy that none of the FRS bother about? Great! I can hardly wait.
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Re: FSO Regulators Guidance Document
« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2011, 11:16:24 PM »
They try.  Effectiveness is not something I'll argue about but I will say that a positive perspective is probably more generally beneficial than a negative one.

We can all be cynics but someone has to be positive otherwise we'll all be going backwards. 

On the other hand:

"From now on I'm thinking only of me."

Major Danby replied indulgently with a superior smile: "But, Yossarian, suppose everyone felt that way."

"Then," said Yossarian, "I'd certainly be a damned fool to feel any other way, wouldn't I?"


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Re: FSO Regulators Guidance Document
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2011, 11:27:41 AM »
I think it is a helpful document. It went out in draft for consultations with enforcing authorites and they seem to have reacted to any comments made.

People are quick enough to moan about inconsistent enforcement, but then knock any attempt to counteract that. I guess some people just like to moan.

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Re: FSO Regulators Guidance Document
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2011, 11:17:30 PM »
Cohesion-what like the CFOA false alarm policy that none of the FRS bother about? Great! I can hardly wait.

Many critics of enforcing authorities would agree that the lack of consistency is the biggest issue. Well this new regulators guidance has attempted to address that, to provide guidance and therefore consistency.

Ok, so like many other documents some authorities take them up quicker than others and some more zealously apply them than others, but that doesn't mean the document is wrong. Just its application

Let time show whether the application of this document was or wasn't consistent across brigades.

For now lets talk about the guidance, is there anything wrong with it?
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Re: FSO Regulators Guidance Document
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2011, 01:44:33 PM »
Thee will almost certainly be lots wrong with the people applying it, Terence. not least that, while I like optimism, the reality is that CFOA are in disarray and are not the best people to catalyze consistency. The reality is however that they are the only body that might have a hope of doing it because of Government policy on localization.
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Re: FSO Regulators Guidance Document link
« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2011, 04:37:55 PM »
The link to the cfoa web site does not work, anyone else had the same problem.

Does anyone else have an alternative ?

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Re: FSO Regulators Guidance Document
« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2011, 06:25:34 PM »
Go to the CFOA site it is easily accessed from there

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Re: FSO Regulators Guidance Document
« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2011, 08:43:07 PM »
The website has recently changed and it appears you need to be a member. http://www.cfoa.org.uk/11937

All my responses only apply to England and Wales and they are an overview of the subject, hopefully it will point you in the right direction and always treat with caution.

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Re: FSO Regulators Guidance Document
« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2011, 10:01:10 PM »
If anyone has a problem downloading it pm me with your email address and I will forward a copy.

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Re: FSO Regulators Guidance Document
« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2011, 04:53:33 PM »
Yes, CFOA launched a new website on Friday late afternoon, and hence the existing link became void. The new link is: http://www.cfoa.org.uk/12002



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Re: FSO Regulators Guidance Document
« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2011, 06:03:22 PM »
Thanks Edita you have saved me some work there. Welcome to the forum, good to have you on board.

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Re: FSO Regulators Guidance Document
« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2011, 11:33:53 PM »
Sorry to be a crashing bore guys.

Has anyone read it? does anyone have any comment?