False Alarm Management Detectors

[John Carlsson]

Ladies and Gents

I have been doing quite a bit of work with a few fire brigades and have had tremendous responses.
I currently have a fire detector that is impervious to all non combustibles and is a true false alarm management detector.

It is capable of distinguishing between
Steam
Dust
Thrips
Aerosol spray
Hair spray
Etc

It has just won the Fire Industry Federation Product Innovation Award,
I consider this to be the most advanced commercial detector on the market.

You may be able to see why it is gaining so much interest within the fire detection field, especially as you are now targeted to reduce false alarms.

My email is john@problematique.wanadoo.co.uk   should you wish to discuss this further, or for me to sent technical information to you

Thanks

John Carlsson Dms

[colin todd]

Was that the exact wording of the award?

[John Carlsson]

Was that the exact wording of the award?

It was the Fire Industry Federation. Product innovation award

http://www.esi-network.co.uk/flashnews.asp

Should you wish to see for yourself?

[messy]

John: Congratulations on the award.

Can you tell me (out of interest) how much more expensive would one of your systems be compared to conventional systems?

 Yes I know it's a ridiculously difficult/hypothetical question to answer (especially as you are trying to market the product) but unless the costs are comparable, I can't see many persistant faslse alarm offenders (OPHs and Hospitals) affording it, however welcome such a product would be.

[colin todd]

Yes, I know it was- I was one of the judges. I just did not recall the award saying it was impervious to all non combustibles (whatever that might mean), that it is a true false alarm management detector or that it was the most advanced detector on the market, though I do agree that it is clever.

[Paul]

I think ADT also do something along the same lines.  They have a head that you can programme to emulate heat / smoke or CO2.

Now I'm only passing on second hand info as an Engineer told me about this, so it may well be inaccurate.

Worth a look though

Paul

[colin todd]

Shame that ADT cannot manage to service my intruder alarm system properly. I sit here awaiting a call (probably in vain) from their service people to tell me when they are coming to fix the mess-up of the system their so-called engineer made when he did the so called service this week.

[Allen Higginson]

Our Algorex system uses algorhtmns (I hate spelling that!!) which guarantees no false alarms.Haven't seen the demonstration at Moreton but apparantly it will ignore particular types of smoke and activate when you introduce another while the first is still present.Never used it myself but sounds good in theory!!
With regard to the ADT head it's a combined CO/heat detector that you can program into day or night mode - have used it in nightclubs for obvious reasons!!

[Paul]

Oh dear, not happy then Colin??

[colin todd]

Nope. Still no call and the gorilla who serviced the system left it such that a personal attack alarm will send a reset signal, while a reset signal will send a personal attack signal. But apparently ADT do not think this is worthy of their concern. Any alarm companies out there want to take over monitoring and maintenance of an (ex) ADT fire alarm system and an (ex ) ADT security system??

[Paul]

Not good publicity for the ADT boys!!

[colin todd]

I am now open to reoommendations as I do not know the intruder companies all that well. To whom should I now go for maintenance and monitoring of both the fire and intruder systems.

[Graeme]

You are a bit far from me otherwise i would have helped you out.

Don't fancy a call out that far

[Paul]

Colin,
I always think that for the likes of me and you, the best option is to use a smaller local reputable company.  With the likes of the large Companies such ADT, Initial,  etc etc, the personal service is lost to their big customers.  The ones who spend thousands on software upgrades and think nothing of having 4 engineers on site full time.

We are mere tadpoles in a pool of hungry ducks!!

I’m sure you know of a good local company.

Paul

[colin todd]

Four hour response could prove difficult, Graeme. Any suggestions as to any good intruder companies who can do maintenance of a very simple conventional AFd system as well as intruder and can offer monitoring of both?