Author Topic: Does a 3 wired 24 VDC fire alarm system meet the present day standards.  (Read 7447 times)

Offline Tom Sutton

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I received the following enquiry but have no idea can anybody help.
 
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I am sure this has been asked before, but I seem to be having trouble locating any info.

A long time ago everyone down my way and probably other places to, were installing panels that could be run of a 3 wire system. (both the sounders and the detection sharing the neutral).
 
I stopped doing this years ago but I have a client that I do a lot servicing for, yet another engineer does the installs and he is still using this 3 wire method.
I am pretty sure the regs changed with the introduction of EN54, but I cant find any text to back this up.
I would like to point this out to my client and if necessary ad it to my reports.
 
Would anybody have any knowledge on this.
 
Today I telephoned: FIA, BAFE, Elesca, FPA, TBFC, NICEIC and not one person could help.

I have seen the text somewhere but cant for the life of me remember where.
All my responses only apply to England and Wales and they are an overview of the subject, hopefully it will point you in the right direction and always treat with caution.

Offline colin todd

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I expect they were all confused as to how you can have a neutral on a DC system.
Colin Todd, C S Todd & Associates

Offline Owain

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I don't see why it wouldn't comply.

There are 2-wire systems after all. And wireless.

Providing the system is designed, installed and maintained to applicable standards, and the design allows all the circuits to be appropriately monitored.

Offline John Webb

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Some panels require the alarm circuits and sounder circuits to be separate because they are monitored in different ways. But if the fire alarm control panel allows the use of a common 0 volt line to both alarm point/detector circuits and the sounder circuits, I don't see any objection to using 3 wires.
John Webb
Consultant on Fire Safety, Diocese of St Albans
(Views expressed are my own)