Was chatting with a fire service upper mid tier manager the other day and hearing of the challenges facing the service, in particular financial. But above all one thing came across clearer than anything, the feeling of powerlessness to influence change or voice dissent, that any converse opinions are treated as hostile and disloyal to the corporate position which is directed from national and local politicians with little influence those charged with delivering the core services. In the old days we had a clear understanding of our core business- operational, enforcement and to a lesser informal extent education. And the best way of delivering those core services in a safe and effective manner was determined by the managers, promoted from within the service. People who were considered to have initiative, ideas, imagination or wisdom or other skills making them worthy of promotion and influence over the direction of the service. Was that such a bad thing? Or have I got the rose tinted glasses on again? And would such managers ever have agreed to the wholesale introduction of two firefighters responding in vans, as proposed for Hampshire according to the news?