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Offline hammer1

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Manual release controls for electronically secured doors
« on: March 22, 2017, 01:04:25 PM »
Afternoon

We have a construction company stating that some of our electronically secure doors that are located on a means of escape do not require manual release controls (green break glass units) as they failsafe on fire alarm activation.

Is this in line with BS 7273 Part 4 requirements?

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Offline William 29

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Re: Manual release controls for electronically secured doors
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2017, 01:27:54 PM »
Er..nope

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Re: Manual release controls for electronically secured doors
« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2017, 01:40:46 PM »
Er..nope

Thought not... thanks for prompt reply.

Offline wee brian

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Re: Manual release controls for electronically secured doors
« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2017, 02:35:37 PM »
Just point them at the building regs - AD B covers this

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Re: Manual release controls for electronically secured doors
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2017, 02:51:26 PM »
Just point them at the building regs - AD B covers this

They have stated only 2 of the 3 requirements need to be implemented in reference to ADB (section 5.11)?

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Re: Manual release controls for electronically secured doors
« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2017, 03:45:04 PM »
Don't know where they get that from ....

5.11 basically says electronically locked doors should release on

a. fire condition
b. loss of power or
c. activation of a manual release unit.

There's no 2 out of 3 as far as I can see.

Re 7273-4 an emergency manual release is needed directly in line with the power to the locking mechanism in case the for whatever reason, the automated signal from the fire alarm should fail.
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Re: Manual release controls for electronically secured doors
« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2017, 05:58:58 PM »
Wilful misreading of the document?
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Re: Manual release controls for electronically secured doors
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2017, 12:19:14 PM »
Probably ... it would also be interesting to hear their definition of "failsafe" as I suspect it will be different from the definition within 7273-4 ....

it would also be handy to know the 7273-4 category of each door .....
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