Author Topic: Drill Books (Read 21009 times)

Matt Akers · « **on:** January 12, 2004, 04:20:03 PM »

Does anyone know of any drill books out there? Exercise or just general drill ground drills, any info would be of great help, cheers, Matt

AnthonyB · « **Reply #1 on:** January 12, 2004, 05:56:25 PM »

Well there used to be the official HMSO Fire Service Drill Book full of that stuff, I know it's name & layout/content changed in '94 to the Fire Service Training Manual, removing many of the Standard Tests/Maintenance stuff.

Not sure if it still exists, it was published by the Home Office (fire Services Unit)

Matt Akers · « **Reply #2 on:** January 16, 2004, 11:45:35 AM »

Thanks, trying to rack my brains for new drills and just wondering there might be a book out there.

fireftrm · « **Reply #3 on:** January 16, 2004, 05:19:35 PM »

The Fire Service Training Manual was revised in 2002 and a copy sent for every station (as far as i am aware) - we certainly have one per stn. There are suggested simulations coming out to allow for demonstration of competence against the NOS. The 'drills' in the training manuals are really intended for new entrants to learn the job with not for station use. My advice is consider ways of inculding different scenarios, built around your station facilities, and also to look outside the station yard........... Nothing beats variety and differnet situations.

Matt Akers · « **Reply #4 on:** January 17, 2004, 10:22:11 AM »

Thanks Fireftrm, we do go off station a lot just looking for those quick drills to get the old grey matter working, a bit like, how to prime the main pump with out using hard suction or LPP……….that sort of thing excising the initiative :lol:

FIREFIGHTER · « **Reply #5 on:** September 21, 2005, 02:23:56 PM »

Quote from: AnthonyB

Well there used to be the official HMSO Fire Service Drill Book full of that stuff, I know it's name & layout/content changed in '94 to the Fire Service Training Manual, removing many of the Standard Tests/Maintenance stuff.

Not sure if it still exists, it was published by the Home Office (fire Services Unit)

dave bev · « **Reply #6 on:** September 24, 2005, 12:16:21 PM »

ok, quick quiz - list the reasons a pump may not prime - all you oldies out there you now have a cheace to shine if you can remember that is! LOL

dave bev

i'll start you off

strainer not submerged - next?

Princess · « **Reply #7 on:** September 24, 2005, 12:45:18 PM »

-The lift is too great
- The suction hose is collapsing
- A mechanical problem with the primer
- The strainer is blocked
- A vortex in the water above the strainer...........

Do I win a prize?

dave bev · « **Reply #8 on:** September 24, 2005, 01:16:08 PM »

not yet!

mechanical problem with the primer is not detailed enough, also what would cause the vortex? the prpose of the exercise is to identify what the problem is so that it can be rectified, there is a reason in this rhyme!

dave bev

Princess · « **Reply #9 on:** September 24, 2005, 01:24:26 PM »

Is it blank verse?

It would depend on what type of primer or pump, but if a stone(s) got into the suction hose because there was no basket strainer that could cause a mechanical failure.

The vortex could be caused if the basket strainer on the suction wasnt deep enough in the water.

Enough? I'm going to sit here for the present then................

Cut Fire Service Pay · « **Reply #10 on:** September 24, 2005, 05:27:50 PM »

You forgot to engage the PTO or didnt tighten the lengths of hard suction!

What about priming the Major pump with another major pump, does anyone still practice that? Or using a blanking cap on the hard suction and then dropping the tank?

dave bev · « **Reply #11 on:** September 24, 2005, 06:42:04 PM »

princess you need to present your answers in a list format

pete p - good answers so far - again please i want them in good old list formati

p.s. remember nearly losing a blank cap doing just that! could i have been sacked for such a thing under the old candidfbdad discipline regs?

dave bev

Princess · « **Reply #12 on:** September 25, 2005, 04:51:55 PM »

I dont know what a list format is. How about.....

If the suction hose wasnt properly attached to the pump or primer air could get in and it wouldnt suck properly?

pugh · « **Reply #13 on:** September 26, 2005, 12:05:14 PM »

Don't you know Princess, nowt sucks in t'fire brigade. Atmospheric pressure works its magic on an area of low pressure.

And as for a list. Look at your receipt from Victoria's Secret and where it itemises silky folderolls, cami knix, lift 'em up-push 'em out bra, etc, substitute each item with a reason for failing to prime - that's a list.

fireftrm · « **Reply #14 on:** September 26, 2005, 12:39:25 PM »

Dave

No prime and these symptoms

No vacuum reading:

Faulty primer (no water in, seals leaking, drive wheel worn etc)
Primer not engaged
Leak in suction
Suction couplings loose
Suction not submerged sufficiently (air drawn in through vortex)
Suction strainer blocked
Delivery valve non-return unseated (where del valves open)
Pump casing leaks
Leak on gauge/connection pipes

High vacuum:

Collapsed suction
Suction strainer blocked
Too high a lift
Too long a lift (frictional losses)
Too dense, or hot a liquid (salt water gives a lower lift, warmer water has an effect - yes both minimal but actual)
Blocked internal strainer (though these should be removed when working from open water)

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