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Offline Tom Sutton

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Heat or Smoke detection in hotels?
« Reply #60 on: March 27, 2007, 09:16:49 AM »
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The whole point of the RRO is, I was informed by Andy Jack, to reduce the burdons on industry and commerce.
You have more faith in government than I do; moving most of the responsibility from local government (FRS) to industry was going to reduce the burden? It certainly reduced the burden on FRS or was the strategy that most of industry would ignore the order and take a chance of a fire or being inspected by an EO.
All my responses only apply to England and Wales and they are an overview of the subject, hopefully it will point you in the right direction and always treat with caution.

Offline CivvyFSO

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Heat or Smoke detection in hotels?
« Reply #61 on: March 27, 2007, 09:48:06 AM »
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The whole point of the RRO is, I was informed by Andy Jack, to reduce the burdons on industry and commerce, but almost every posting I have read on here, since 1st October 2006, indicates extra this extra that, more detection, new systems, when will it all end ?
Conqueror.
Doesn't all of what is happening go toward making safer premises though? Any precautions put in place through a risk assessment are there because they are deemed to be necessary. Won't the overall burden to business, i.e. reducing the damage/interruption of trading etc caused by fires, be less?

Maybe these people who were running sub-standard premises have been getting away with it for a long time and now it is their responsiblity they are standing up and taking notice? If members of your family were working in these premises then how would you have it?... With the employer happily 'getting away with it' because an IO has not visited yet, or having to do something to make it safe?

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« Reply #62 on: March 27, 2007, 10:09:11 AM »
The reduction of burden to industry,was not aimed at not having a safe premise,just not having such a complex system.As the gov blurb says,if you have been complying with the FPWR there should not be too much problem.But of course commerce has not,in a lot of cases,so now they will have to play catchup.Risk assessment will always mean there are different perceptions and views placed on the level of risk.Nothing so far has convinced me that SD should not be the first consideration,with some caveats.As this has been happening locally for years,there is not going to be a problem with lots of hotels having to change HD for SD.We do not locally have a Large UWFC problem with these places.It works,it aint broke so why fix it?