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Offline PhilB

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« Reply #30 on: September 04, 2007, 09:24:16 AM »
Unfortunately Nearlythere no guide will give you all the answers and some guides give answers that we now know are not entirely correct or that better solutions have been identified since they were published.

Perhaps those in FRS fire safety departments, BCOs and consultants should welcome that fact because if the codes/guides gave all the answers there would be little point in their jobs.

Anyone can stick rigidly to a guide some can understand not only what they say, but why they say it and apply a little common sense.

Please see Kurnals last post on the layout of the flat and tell me what the guide says about that one.

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« Reply #31 on: September 04, 2007, 11:23:33 AM »
Do you mean Post 8?

Safety Advisors and Consultants will always be able to justify their jobs because it can be difficult for people to interpret codes of practice. I know this from experience.
Despite the fact that all Rules and Regulations relating to Inland Revenue are available to the public we still have plenty of Tax Advisors and Accountants.
Despite the fact that all the laws of the land are published there is still a need for solicitors.  
Where professional judgement and common sense comes in is when there is little or no guidance on an issue.
We're not Brazil we're Northern Ireland.

Offline PhilB

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« Reply #32 on: September 04, 2007, 12:49:39 PM »
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Safety Advisors and Consultants will always be able to justify their jobs because it can be difficult for people to interpret codes of practice. I know this from experience.
I thought the point you were trying to make was that we shouldn't be interpreting the codes/guides but just applying them precriptively because a list of clever pleople were consulted when they were being written.

Also are you suggesting that FSOs dont need to justify their jobs, just blindly follow guidance?

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« Reply #33 on: September 04, 2007, 02:01:29 PM »
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Quote from: nearlythere
Safety Advisors and Consultants will always be able to justify their jobs because it can be difficult for people to interpret codes of practice. I know this from experience.
I thought the point you were trying to make was that we shouldn't be interpreting the codes/guides but just applying them precriptively because a list of clever pleople were consulted when they were being written.

Also are you suggesting that FSOs dont need to justify their jobs, just blindly follow guidance?
I do believe that we are interpreting codes or parts of codes. Many van be quite complex documents and need an experienced eye and specific line of thought. You can only go by what you understand of your reading of a code. You might be spot on. You might be way off the mark.

The list of clever people, whether you agree or not, are still representative of professional organisations and institutions and will be deemed expert witnesses by a court.

No. When I mean Safety Advisors I mean whether they are F&R Service or otherwise.
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