Adb 5.12

[jokar]

Fred,

Best wishes on your retirement and for whatever new career you have in front of you, even if it is just with your feet up.

[nearlythere]

Surely we can all see that the problem of securing fire exits to avoid their misuse is a very real and big one. Everything we are all suggesting has been tried and found not to be acceptable to one or the other part of the community. Therefore we need to come up with a better solution than those that presently exist.

It would be great if people on this forum could use their combined knowledge, experience and innovative-thinking, to come up with a real solution to this problem together. Any offers?

If it doesn't happen here it won't happen at all.  I don't think there is a fire forum anywhere else on the web that has such regular submissions from all sides of the fire sector.

The dilemma of safety vs. security in residential care homes has been resolved through technical developments in door hardware - and I'm sure the same can be achieved for supermarkets - it's head down time.

.... but not for me - I'm retiring on Friday so good luck with it

Yep. Best wishes and may you spend your retirement wisely.

[kurnal]

In answer to Vals original query, I know we are all aware of the risk of panic in these places but if there havn't been any headline grabbing disasters in the last few years to focus our attention on this as a particular risk it will probably be down to it being a hobby horse of one member of the  advisory committee.

I look at it in an opposite way- just because it is specifically mentioned doesnt necessarily mean it is so important as to be cast in stone- because conversely there is much that is not well covered in the ADB - but this does not mean it is unimportant.

In any case as soon as the building is occupied it is down to risk assessment and the alternative benchmark standard of the fire safety guides.