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Offline kurnal

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« Reply #30 on: August 17, 2008, 10:58:59 AM »
Thanks Buzzard- but I think the market needs a wholly battery powered radio linked smoke alarm for the small B&B market. The device must have a primary and secondary battery source to meet the signs and signals acop - lets say a 5 year life primary battery supply with a 30 day backup battery. Or am I in cloud cuckoo land?

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« Reply #31 on: August 17, 2008, 11:03:40 AM »
Quote from: kurnal
Thanks Buzzard- but I think the market needs a wholly battery powered radio linked smoke alarm for the small B&B market. The device must have a primary and secondary battery source to meet the signs and signals acop - lets say a 5 year life primary battery supply with a 30 day backup battery. Or am I in cloud cuckoo land?
I don't think it would be exactly rocket science to achieve this.

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« Reply #32 on: August 17, 2008, 11:16:05 AM »
I believe the EMS 5839 part 1 radio system detectors have exactly this arrangement

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« Reply #33 on: August 17, 2008, 03:32:31 PM »
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I believe the EMS 5839 part 1 radio system detectors have exactly this arrangement
Yes they do...  but the systems are very expensive and beyond what a normal B&B owner would want to pay !!!

The detectors also have a "self sound" facility so you could make it alarm in the room of origin only if you wanted to.

However we also install a much better and cheaper euro compliant alternative that is an ideal retro fit system for hotels etc using a mix of hardwired and radio devices. Bit like the apollo expander but far more flexible....
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« Reply #34 on: August 17, 2008, 04:04:11 PM »
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However we also install a much better and cheaper euro compliant alternative that is an ideal retro fit system for hotels etc using a mix of hardwired and radio devices. Bit like the apollo expander but far more flexible....
Tell us more?
I understood that EMS was the best but have yet to install one due to price!
Any info on any radio alarms gratefully accepted
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« Reply #35 on: August 17, 2008, 06:52:17 PM »
EMS are good but there always seem to be battery issues.

The system we use uses Argus Vega protocol.... standard A/A control panel, devices are half the cost of EMS, 240 devices per loop mixed hardwired and radio, 32 devices per radio module that sits on the loop etc etc..... you need some decent training to be able to install and commission it as its not the simplest in the world.

It uses the new 868MHz European frequency so the range isn't as good as EMS but the components are much better looking and half the size.
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« Reply #36 on: August 17, 2008, 07:40:13 PM »
Regarding the 868MHz European frequency, all radio systems are being forced this way including the EMS system, therefore very soon they will all be on a like for like basis, 'signal strength wise'
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« Reply #37 on: August 17, 2008, 08:16:03 PM »
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Regarding the 868MHz European frequency, all radio systems are being forced this way including the EMS system, therefore very soon they will all be on a like for like basis, 'signal strength wise'
True.... but as EN54-25 isn't in force yet, and there is bound to be a year or two for manufacturers to fall in to line once it is, they are in no hurry to comply, and their kit certainly won't be any cheaper....!!
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