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Offline Benzerari

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« Reply #90 on: October 18, 2008, 05:56:23 PM »
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Benz, you've started talking to yourself here :)
I used to :)
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« Reply #91 on: October 18, 2008, 06:08:17 PM »
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Benz, you've started talking to yourself here :)
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Ambulance instead! I worked last week in Psyciatric Hospital (the whole week), I think that's why  :D
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« Reply #92 on: October 19, 2008, 02:06:31 AM »
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Benz, you've started talking to yourself here :)
...."TAXI for Benzerari"!!!!!
Ambulance instead! I worked last week in Psyciatric Hospital (the whole week), I think that's why  :D
...and they let you leave?????
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« Reply #93 on: October 19, 2008, 09:18:01 AM »
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...."TAXI for Benzerari"!!!!!
Ambulance instead! I worked last week in Psyciatric Hospital (the whole week), I think that's why  :D
...and they let you leave?????
Probably they didn't realize, that's why, If they did, they wouldn't let me out, or may be, there isn't enough room any more... :D
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« Reply #94 on: October 27, 2008, 04:47:17 PM »
Today, I have confirmed the 'Warm Start' in EMS panel didn't lose the configuration (info) so Dave was right, but the previous one I dealt with It did, what was going on with the previous one then?

I don't know? Even EMS Technical Support today were very busy, I couldn't get in hold of them :)

I was obliged to use today the 'Warm Start' to clear out (BT fault: battery fault) even I had replaced them with brand new ones :)
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« Reply #95 on: October 27, 2008, 05:24:27 PM »
Benz

you are not supposed to use the warm start to clear faults..
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« Reply #96 on: October 27, 2008, 05:32:36 PM »
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Benz

you are not supposed to use the warm start to clear faults..
What's your suggestions then, to clear it out?
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« Reply #97 on: October 27, 2008, 06:16:28 PM »
isolate/re-enable device
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« Reply #98 on: October 27, 2008, 07:34:12 PM »
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isolate/re-enable device
Ohhh, Grame; you are talking about the door, while I am talking about the window...

I said battery fault and not device fault, I am talking about the panels batteries (2*12Vdc, 7Ah),  I replaced them by brand new ones, the fault didn't clear out, even through system reset option...

That's what let me thinking about 'Warm Start', as the fault isn't any more genuine fault, it just couldn't cleared out form the display... etc
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« Reply #99 on: October 27, 2008, 07:51:40 PM »
it should have cleared after pressing mute sounders a few times then reset a few times with keyswitch on.
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« Reply #100 on: October 27, 2008, 08:11:25 PM »
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it should have cleared after pressing mute sounders a few times then reset a few times with keyswitch on.
Sorry, but it didn't mate :)
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« Reply #101 on: October 27, 2008, 11:59:54 PM »
Another useful way to clear odd faults is to change the clock to 11.59 pm and let it change to midnight .... the panel does a bit of a self test and collects all the battery info from the radio devices....

So i take it this is a Mark 1 panel then....?
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« Reply #102 on: October 28, 2008, 09:29:42 AM »
For the case we are talking about of (BT fault), I found through event history that a repetition of a series of the same messages:

Battery charging OK, date... time...
Battery test fail, date..., time...
Battery charging OK, date... time...
Battery test fail, date..., time...
Battery charging OK, date... time...
Battery test fail, date..., time...
Battery charging OK, date... time...
Battery test fail, date..., time...

But this has no thing to do with device's batteries...! rather it was panels fault: BT...

Obviously, when tried to test the panel batteries with a battery tester, the battery tester didn't come on at all..., blank display...,  batteries totaly dead, and once replaced them by brand new ones, and pressed silence and reset, nothing happened, tried the system reset option several times, nothing happened..., the (BT fault) didn't clear from the display, I guessed that due to the processor reported the (battery faulty) for so many times, it classified it as permanent fault, and stopped testing the batteries..., threfore it needs then a proper reset which is called (warm start with EMS 5000 panel), otherwise I have to wait for I don't know how long, to get it cleared out from the display... etc
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« Reply #103 on: October 28, 2008, 09:31:14 AM »
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Another useful way to clear odd faults is to change the clock to 11.59 pm and let it change to midnight .... the panel does a bit of a self test and collects all the battery info from the radio devices....

So i take it this is a Mark 1 panel then....?
Good deal Dave, that means you speed up the processing..., very good idea  
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« Reply #104 on: October 28, 2008, 09:35:29 AM »
About the timer issue, my interpretation (but; I might be wrong) is that, once the device is logged on, and start to be operational, its timer trigger to start counting down, the idea is i.e. its battery will take five years to run out (Obviously in theory) or say in (Ideal conditions...) i.e. after one year you will get 80% left, but there are very less probability this theory value may coincide with the practical (actual) battery value, hence the best way to find out, is to trace what the processor reported to event history when the processor tests either device's batteries or panel batteries… :)
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