How many more deaths?

[novascot]

I also agree,

Dont get me started on communal fire alarms in blocks of flats though. I may need my morphine dose upped.

I was not advocating a communal fire alarm sytem, only a sounder/sounders so that the sleeping occupants had early warning of fire in the adjoining property which did have a fire alarm. If nothing else, the Resposible Person has a duty of care to those "in and around" the Relevant premises.

Colin, are you suggesting that Fire Safety Consultants are no better than Pub landlords regarding the carrying out of a Fire Risk Assessment? Put yourself as a tenent in a three to five and more storey temement with a single escape stair. Who would you rather have carry out an FRA in the ground floor Relevant Premises?

[colin todd]

As in happens I was brought up in one, and there were no FRAs in those days, so the ground floor post office was never suject to any consideration.

[Big T]

Communal fire alarm systems are never the answer in flats.

Managing the false alarms in these buildings is such an issue that no - one will respond to an activation. So what is the point of installing it? Compartmentation, a part 6 system and clear communal ways is the answer to flat fire safety provisions. Always has been and always will be.

I gave 3300 blocks in the UK, of which none have a communal fire alarms system. We have many fires in flats, but compartmentation has (thus far) prevent fire and smoke spread to any other parts of the buidings.

We have 200 blocks that do and I am in the process of removing them all.